Best blm aoe rotation for SR?

[Hivernica]

So I've been doing the following aoe rotation:
Quelling strikes -> fire 3 -> raging strikes -> fire 2 x3 (IIRC) -> flare -> swiftcast -> convert -> flare -> mega ether -> flare -> transpose -> blizzard 2, repeat.

However I've seen a blm do a flare only rotation (I watched and noticed they were not ice flares, he did fire 3 before his flares). And I was wondering which is better? I usually use my main for speed runs (scholar) but I've had fun with blm for the past few days. I'm not really experience with blm and that's why I am seeking advice.

[NyneAlexander]

I've done basically the same rotation you're using except after transpose, I just hardcast FIII and then another flare if need be. At that point, everything is dead, so no need for UI3.

I've also been working on a "flare only" rotation that someone showed me. Basicallly you do the FIII, flare, convert/swiftcast flare, transpose, wait until 2 seconds after the first tic and cast a cold flare, then you get an mp tick back, hot flare, repeat. Haven't had a chance to test its effectiveness.

[Halloween]

I've found that the best rotation depends highly on your party situation. If you have a decent dps ally and your whm is able to cast a couple of Holys, a triple flare should be enough to drop the group. If you're having to carry more than your fair share of aoe, you probably want to start with f2's.

With a 2 blm group, both can skip the f2's and just go for triple flare. I usually save swiftcast for the 3rd flare, that way a mob doesn't die while you're casting and ruin it.

[NyneAlexander]

right but if you burn a manapot for a triple flare, then when you get to the 2nd group, you don't have convert or a manapot available.

[baopee]

FIII-FII (repeat)-Flare-transpose-swift cast-flare-convert-flare-transpose (wait 2) - flare- (mana tick)-(repeat)

insert cds wherever you see fit.

[Mister-Wonderful]

FIII-FII (repeat)-Flare-transpose-swift cast-flare-convert-flare-transpose (wait 2) - flare- (mana tick)-(repeat)

insert cds wherever you see fit.

This is near the best damage rotation, you will average higher if you open with convert>flare>transpose and then do the flare forever after instead of transpose swiftcast that 2nd flare, At least I do in my runs, I've tried most rotations. With 2 blm and a WHM in bray, you probably won't finish either so it really doesn't matter, as noted in later posts, so this is good too.

[Maero]

agreed that certain rotations are situational but many of times i do a 3x flare
With First flare being after my multiple Fire 2's are cast, so when low on mp i cast first flare>convert>swiftcast flare> Mega ether> Flare
You do in fact loose some dps (which i don't have exact numbers) if using a flare after transpose
And 3x flares are more so for large pulls like for instance Brayflox HM comes to mind, 2blm's doing 3x flares, stuff dies fairly quick

[baopee]

unless the other dps is under geared, I have never finished the forth flare during any of the pull. Like what Maero said, after 3rd flare, you should only have 2-3 mobs left standing with very little of hp points

[scarebearz]

It's mostly dependant on the group (i.e. is the rest of the party doing good dps, is there a whm spamming Holy etc), I have tried the "unlimited flare" rotation and find it to be a dps loss (not huge, but enough to put me off using it) vs the rotation in the opening post.