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    ispano's Avatar
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    Melfina Amastacia
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    Excalibur
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Foo01 View Post
    It would be nice if the could meet you half-way, but in the way of that is the fact that they can not know what they don't know and they can't do what they don't know. And it be nice if they didn't get mad and treat any advice or tips as bossing them around. But those are the breaks.

    And invariably you will improve faster than them so that half-way mark will keep averaging higher (average = [your skill level + their skill level] / 2) so you can't possibly expect them to meet your half way. And I do not expect that because I know it is impossible.
    Except they can. There are many solutions to learning something you don't know, one of them in particular, advice from other people. Refusing to even LISTEN to that advice, be it good or bad, is ALL on that player. You can't just pull out the "He doesn't know how, so he can't do it". No. It should be "He doesn't know how, let's show him how(or teach him how)" But guess what, you just get harassed for doing that, or called an elitist. I'm sorry, you are wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by Foo01 View Post
    They can't to the middle ground the instant you demand it, that is a fact. And it is elitist to say they don't belong, because this is the elitist ethos to exclude lesser players.
    Good job missing the point, they can if shown or told how. That's the entire point of giving advice, so people can LEARN and do better. But REFUSING to listen to the advice and improve, they do not belong. They are WILLINGLY refusing to TRY to do better, they do not belong. They are the ones in the wrong.

    We are ALL human. We all can learn and improve. Hell, I have a friend on my server who can't use the whole left side of his body, and he's always trying to be a better player. He doesn't ignore advice or bash people for saying ANYTHING against him. He's physically disabled, making this game hard for him to play and he STILL TRIES.

    EDIT: One other thing. Meeting half way does not literally mean HALF. It means both parties COMPROMISE. If one side is not compromising AT ALL, in a group situation, they are wrong.
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    Last edited by ispano; 06-07-2014 at 02:41 AM.