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    reality_check's Avatar
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    Jesse Branford
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    Adamantoise
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    Be honest -- how long did the new relic quest line take to develop?

    Half a day? And this was supposed to keep the content that players won't finish for patches to come?

    The first leg of the relic quest was amazingly developed. Five unique bosses, dungeons to trek through, having items crafted...

    I just don't understand how this is "content" at all. Maybe I'm just frustrated at the game at the moment, but currently, this seems to me like it's a pathetic excuse for new content.
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    Sigmund Felsword
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    Gilgamesh
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Due to the power of a relic, it is actually supposed to take a long time to get it. They did not originally intend for the Zenith to be so quickly achieved, but it happened.

    You want a perfect example of why the relic should be originally harder to get, take a look at how many weapons exist at 50 that become useless once you get your relic. They were intended to fill that gap as you went through the steps for the relic, but the relic was so easily obtained they are now just rare drop skins in these dungeons.
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    That isn't my complaint. I don't mind time consuming aspects. But they just reused the exact same things we were doing for the last 8 months of the game and called it "new content."
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    I won't disagree with you there, but really if we're going to be that nit picky...we're just all playing Everquest.
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    Nel Artux
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    Asura
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    Quote Originally Posted by reality_check View Post
    Five unique bosses
    Since when Ifrit, garuda, Titan and the chimeras are unique boss ?
    I'll give you Hydra but the other aren't unique boss.
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by reality_check View Post
    That isn't my complaint. I don't mind time consuming aspects. But they just reused the exact same things we were doing for the last 8 months of the game and called it "new content."
    I'm sure it was never called new content from the devs. it is a new questlines that use old content in it, like the original relict quest 1.0 did it.

    relict quest content during 1.0:
    Hamlet defence to get 3 seals from 3 Hamlet each (the bottleneck, a pure grind only to be able to unlock the questline. Was already since 2-3 months ingame before the relict quest)
    materia melding
    two 17 minute dungeon speedruns for 100% dropchance of quest items (the droprate was abysmal if you needed longer)
    Behest
    Faction Leves
    Chocobo caravan (I'm not 100% sure if it was in the questline)
    NMs
    killing Garuda HM with nobody dying in the party
    Killing Ifrit extreme (the only one content in the list that was new at this time)

    This is what I can remember and have heard. I was at the dungeon speedrun part before the "last save" day.
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    Last edited by Felis; 06-02-2014 at 04:26 AM.

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    Lemuria Glitterhands
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    Ragnarok
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    It's fairly obvious they took the lazy way out. There was a decent amount of effort put into the design of the books themselves, but that appears to be where they blew the budget. Honestly, everything from the atmas themselves to the grinding of old content via the books is just an excuse to prolong the game in the cheapest way possible.

    Luckily there's still the right amount of new content to keep me enjoying the game regardless. Still feels a bit sore that they'd give us such a weak upgrade for so much time and effort though.
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    Driven Rapturespell
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    Mateus
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    I think its a good way to keep old content relevant and has gotten me to do a few dungeon I hadn't touched in months. Also there is plenty of other content with more on the way.
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    Nadja Zielle
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    Sargatanas
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    I don't think they were lazy, they do however always seem to underestimate the skill of the playerbase.

    Largely do to the ppl who complain about loldifficulty on these forums I'm sure
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    Nuinn Nomi
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    Excalibur
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    Bard Lv 64
    As tedious as it is, it was clever thinking on their part to do it this way, with the least amount of time and effort. They made an idea of an item desirable, to most of the players, while making us go back to content that most would never touch again once they leveled their desired class/job to 50 or completed a dungeon just once. It may be boring and rehashed but they know the majority will suffer though the grind to have the omg-OP-flashy-weapon sometime in the future. They just cashed in on human nature. Here's hoping the future steps will be more varied and more interesting. Not that I'm holding my breath since end game stuff usually just equates borderline tolerable timesink in favor of economic benefits. More time spent = longer subscriptions = more money <--- how that can be achieved with spending minimal resources....
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