Cash shops: Whats wrong with you?

[Alavastre]

It's pretty simple.

There are people that can't afford this game.

There are people that can afford this game and not much else.

Then there are people than can afford this game plus a lot more.

By your logic, SE will only tap into the people that will only spend 13 dollars a month on their game. Having a small shop gives them a higher potential profit. They can tap into those people who have extra cash and love the game. It's pretty silly in a business to cap your profits. And most of the time, the cash shop people are a different team than the in game people. As so long as they're not taking my sub and not putting effort into upgrading the game, I'm fine with a cash shop. If it's a vehicle to get more FFXIV, who wouldn't want it? Even if the people paying for it are the more well off, the money generated would go right back into the game. Minus some overhead and profit for SE.

TLDR: Cash shops are fine if implemented properly.

[Gormogon]

This game has a subscription instead of asking for "cash shops" you should be asking for a player focused poll content that gets added per patch or major patch.

Collaboration FATE glamour focus priority
Minion priority
Barding priority
Retainer exclusive glamour gear

So on and so on.

[DoubleT]

this whole thread is dumb an so is the other ones about the same topic. nowhere at anytime has SE ever even hinted at putting a full item cash shop into this game EVER. Buying an item to change your race is not P2W. the reason they charge money for it, is cuz if they gave it out for free for as much as anyone wanted, everyone would abuse it an change races several times a day or as much as they were allowed to. Buying more retainers for storage space/lottery chances at sellable items is not P2W. News Flash they charged extra money for mules in XI too. this games subs are not even close to dwindling enough to go F2P, many servers are still locked down from character creation everyday. Finally if they wanted to test a cash shop out on a game, XI's subs are way lower than ours I'm sure they would think to try it there first, or even Dragon Quest X... o wait all 3 SE MMO's still follow subscription based plans you say? hmmmm i wonder what payment model they prefer...

[ZReport]

Cash Shop? Why are you dudes panicking for no reason? Yoshi-P has already stated that he won't add anything game breaking to the game that would be obtained via "Cash Shop." It's all going to be vanity stuff or things like Fantasia:

On special paid items

I would consider in terms of items, optional things that would change the aesthetics like your skin color or your race but not your stats. If it’s like the Ring of Yoshida, it’s cool but it can cross the line and help you clear end game content and help you beat certain monsters. That has the risk of people calling the game pay-to-win. That’s not something I want to do.

http://www.gamerevolution.com/featur...never-paytowin

I swear you guys complain about the stupidest things ever without doing any basic Google-legwork to check interviews or SE backchannels on what Yoshi-P feels on the matter. Like, some people are legit typing out 3000 word essays in this thread depicting how they are for or against this subject matter. Stop wasting your time, lol.

[Len]

As long as the cash shop stays free of items that increase experience, currency (gil, tomestones, pvp points) acquisition, I think I'd be fine with it.

Do you know how many adult men that want to dress up their female miqote in all sorts of frilly dresses Square Enix stands to make money off of?

[Ikeda]

Do you know how many adult men that want to dress up their female miqote in all sorts of frilly dresses Square Enix stands to make money off of?

Do you know how wrong it is to go from equally catering to 2 groups for the same price (people who just want to min/max their character, and people who enjoy vanity items) to suddenly exploiting 1 of those groups for extra money? If SE wasn't already adding so many vanity items to the game for the current subscription price it would be a different story but as it is all adding a vanity cash shop would do is make any vanity lover that values their money feel exploited.

[Elandri]

Here is how I feel about the cash shop, or selling vanity items in a p2p game.

I have been playing MMOS for 11 years now. Starting with the original Everquest. In that game I think I paid 12.99 a month plus an expansion every 4-6 months. In the short time I played that, THREE expansions came out. And yes I bought those three along with the four that were out before I even began.

Since then I moved onto another MMO that charged 14.99 a month, and so on and so forth. So for the last 10 years I've paid 15 a month for an account. Most P2p MMOS since then have been 15 dollars a month. Not bad for the last 10 years, considering costs have risen in that time.

So, how I feel, if they keep some vanity items to help keep my sub low in comparison to what they could charge. I'm all for it. I can choose if I want those vanity items or not.

In short, compared to my MMO history. Even with a vanity cash shop, I've paid less overall then I did when I first started MMOS.

[Pence]

This thread is silly.

You state in OP that the game is a massive success, doing better than expected....

Why WOULDN'T a company want a CS* in them circumstances? Companies want money. Like. It's kinda pretty good for a company to make monies.

*As previous people have said, vanity / non-game breaking CS only.

[Malamasala]

In the end, what they sell will not matter much, it is how much they charge.

MICRO-transactions is a word everyone likes using, but few understand we are talking single dollar costs. Buy ingame vanity for 1 dollar? No problem at all, here take my money.

Want 25 dollars for it? Too bad, I'll just cancel my subcription and see how you like losing money.

[Nadrojj]

They'll do the same thing as WoW. Add a cash shop with exclusives that won't offer anything but vanity. They won't have a pay to win, but a pay to look like the unique snowflake you want to be, and that's fine with me. If you want to spend your money to look different in game, or ride a different mount, or get a cool little pet then go for it, the only people who would be mad about that are the have nots.