THM Screwed on AoE removeal ???

[Zenaku]

After playing a bit last night, I tend to agree with Zenaku a bit.

I will admit, for what we lost in healing capability, we gained in damge output.

To be honest, I sespect a battery type class or job comming in the near future, but thats just my opinion.

THM may be lame for party right now but who said there was for partying anyways? I guess players are forgetting the part that jobs would be added in 1.20 and they be base of partying not the class.

And the only reason they took off AOE was due to that point why should class have AOE spell if it was made for soloing? i guess the only reason they give AOE spell was for White mage job.

I guess people also forgot that 1.18 was just to release the first part of the fix/update and 1.19 1.20 and so on would bring more fix and the other part of class/job fix auto attack fix and much more.

[viperld]

Meh I feel like aoe removal is lame. However I understand that there's more to come, and at the moment I only solo anyway. Its like, the game is so early on and bare bones that Conj and Thm honestly don't feel like anything yet. Yea one has colors and one has darkness/light, but given that parties aren't all that common yet what does it even mean?

I do enjoy the higher spell damage. Gogo Thm solo!

[Baelari]

I've been doing some grind parties and running the r25 dungeon on my Thm for a while, and have had no trouble being the main healer. I have crap for an mp pool (almost 600 after food and gear and party buffs!), since I haven't put a single point into mage stats, but I only have to use Exhaltation in the room with all the wisps. Is healing going to get significantly harder later? I don't understand how Thm is failing at being a healer now, and isn't a party class.

[Coglin]

yes, to answer your question, it gets harder. 25 to 50 is a big difference.

[MuSaka]

SO now alot of abilities like sacrafice I-III are all single target and cost more MP yet we have a lesser chance to gain MP back as well..........WOW what a nerf............

rez timer went up 5 fold.

Emulate got the nerf that everyone saw comming .

I knew we would take a hit, but this is ridiculos.

THM never got screwed, it's just ways too buff before 1.18. Those nerf just a balance thing seems to me. Besides MP cost raise is not only for thm, u just need to get use to it.
And mages is still the only choice for lowman NMs or things like that. Check out the Buffalo/Dodore duo video I made and u will know that thm is not weak at all in 1.18.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...424#post309424

[Coglin]

THM never got screwed, it's just ways too buff before 1.18. Those nerf just a balance thing seems to me. Besides MP cost raise is not only for thm, u just need to get use to it.
And mages is still the only choice for lowman NMs or things like that. Check out the Buffalo/Dodore duo video I made and u will know that thm is not weak at all in 1.18.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...424#post309424

No need to explain, I have looooooong since changed my opinion from the time of the OP, which was made before any play time as a form of a disussion starter, while I was dowloading the update. I am happy with the thm/con changes

Thank you for your inut though.

[Archadius]

If you do some cross-classing, THM can still tank a lot of stuff. The only difference now is that you can't really solo stuff that you shouldn't have been able to solo in the first place (Dodore etc) lol