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  1. #21
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    Souljacker's Avatar
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    Last Hero
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    Coeurl
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nekodar View Post
    Force "join in progress" on people, and people will stop using the DF and DR completely.

    I don't select "join in progress" because I DO NOT WANT to join at a random point of the dungeon.
    I don't believe it for a second. Every other mmo on the planet filters you into dungeons based on what is needed, not whether or not you personally feel like a fresh run. Duty roulette is just that, a roulette (like "random" dungeons).The tool picks, not you. SE trying to reinvent the wheel by allowing people to choose whether they can be filtered into a partially complete run or not has done nothing but cause groups to have to disband because of lack of members, driving queue times up as those people reenter the queue to start over again. You are voting against your own best interests with a comment like that.

    All these growing pains have already been done in other mmos. Every single one has been addressed in "that other game". I guarantee in 6 months or less SE is going to come to the same conclusions. Duty finder will filter people based on need, you'll still get your bonus if you are filtered into a 3/4 run, and no one will be able to see where the group is at and withdraw. You will still get a guaranteed "fresh" run if you pick a specific dungeon, and queue times will decrease as people are completing content instead of having to re-enter the queue prematurely.

    As far as the OP, that's kind of what I started doing - not using that check box at all. After my 6th queue in a row into an empty Stone Vigil I just gave up. It was nice of them to give us choice, but it causes too many actual problems with completing content and that's why other games don't do it.
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  2. #22
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    Miakis Lunefalena
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    Cerberus
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Lithera View Post
    As I mentioned previously, the devs changed this because people (chiefly tanks and healers) were queuing and withdrawing in order to get a 2/3 or 3/4 instance for quick tomes.
    They managed to hide progress for CT, I'm sure they can do it again.
    This is not the answer, since it created more problems.
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  3. #23
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    SeraviEdalborez's Avatar
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    Seravi Edalborez
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Trespar View Post
    They managed to hide progress for CT, I'm sure they can do it again.
    This is not the answer, since it created more problems.
    They didn't even hide progress that well. People just fished for 0/1 instead of fresh run.
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  4. #24
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    Yikari Daebreak
    World
    Sephirot
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    Monk Lv 100
    I've always found it insane just how little priority is given to in progress groups. It seems at the moment that if somebody leaves a party mid run, its game over, you will very rarely (read: never, it seems) get replacements.

    Given the roulette system, I think building in in progress runs would do more benefit than harm.
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    You must show no mercy-
    Nor have any belief whatsoever in how others judge you-
    For your greatness will silence them all! -Warrior Wisdom

  5. #25
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    Alenore's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Alenore Llohen
    World
    Excalibur
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    Lancer Lv 100
    We don't seem to have the same experience.
    I almost always find replacement. Earlier in AK, got a healer after 3 minutes.
    In cutter's cry, a tank in 10 minutes.
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  6. #26
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    Nico Nico
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    Goblin
    Main Class
    Alchemist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Conquers View Post
    must have mandatory join in progress ...
    Recently I have switched my GC and started over the GC hunting log.
    There are some mobs could only be found at the beginning of the dungeon,
    therefore "mandatory join in progrss" will cause issue in this situation.
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