Acceptable Cash Shop Items: Suggestions!

[Razzle]

Those are just "play our game longer we give you stuff!" benefits

Talking about retainers and Fantasia, not vet reward

I'm kind of tierd to repeat that, but take for example Fantasia.

It could be (or could not be) that SE had more plans to aestecian to be able to edit more about your character. With Fantasia added to lolMogStation, they are basically encouraged not to add and expand on Aestacian in game.

With retainers added, SE is encouraged to make as many more items and materials (on top of the many useless materials we already have) and/or require more matrials in furure crafts, in order to fill our inventory better. It doesn't mean they will do it, but the encourgment to do it is defintly there.

The players are okay because ATM its not as bad. See you when we have 5 more jobs. See you when level capped si raised (tier 6 on top of the tiers we already have). Let's see how well you will do with 2 retainers.

Every addition to lolMogStation is going to "hurt" the game, if not directly, then in another way.

[Felis]

It could be (or could not be) that SE had more plans to aestecian to be able to edit more about your character. With Fantasia added to lolMogStation, they are basically encouraged not to add and expand on Aestacian in game.

The plans for aestecians is simple
everything that don't change the gender, race, bone structure or skin color, also everything an aestecian can do without needing a doctor title.

[Razzle]

The plans for aestecians is simple
everything that don't change the gender, race, bone structure or skin color, also everything an aestecian can do without needing a doctor title.

Only that it's not a real life one, we're in a fantasy world XP Eitherway my point still stands, it could have been in plans for another NPC for example, if not the aestecian.
I personally know games that Aestecians do let you change those D:

[Seif]

None.
I pay for this game to avoid all the bs suggested in this thread.
That all should be content within the game anything else is unacepptable use of our sub money.

[Skull_Angel]

So what I gather now is that nothing has changed;

- People are still evangelically spreading the gospel of how things should be run without realizing it's only an opinion and not some law or the word of some god.
- A few people continue to question the opinions of those that oppose the idea [of cash shops], but are met with the same baseless replies.
- No one really seems to realize that the architecture for a cash shop was created with the launch of 2.0.
- The original topic still continues to be ignored because "it's wrong!" to begin with.

The Mog Station was created with the explicit idea of micro transactions in mind. The developers could have left the payment service as it was with account.square-enix.com, but they decided to create a whole new site dedicated to transactions for FFXIV. This tells us that extra services through micro transactions were highly considered at one point and the expansion of which is more than likely to become a reality at some point.

Any successful P2P MMO quickly becomes a cash cow and it can be milked in more than one way; companies understand this, but history shows us that it must be done carefully. OP wanted to know which ways were acceptable and got a few good answers, but a lot of nonsense as well.

I still continue to want to see more replies to OP, but doubt that will happen at this point. It is an honest question and I still agree that cash shops can be done in a way that does not negatively impact the community on a notable scale; has it been done so before? Yes, but not by many.

[ReiszRie]

I still continue to want to see more replies to OP, but doubt that will happen at this point. It is an honest question and I still agree that cash shops can be done in a way that does not negatively impact the community on a notable scale; has it been done so before? Yes, but not by many.

The OP wasn't looking for constructive discussion, he created this thread with the sole intention of it being a flamebait.

Would you prefer actual collage level course learning in video game design and market. You know I am trying to to boast that around, but if you want to put my credability into judgement, toll, you might want to go else where. I have had talks with my proffessors who recently worked at EA and Bethesda Games. So STFU

[Skull_Angel]

The OP wasn't looking for constructive discussion, he created this thread with the sole intention of it being a flamebait.

Ahaha, I didn't realize who OP was when I started posting, that's what I get for looking at the forums when I wake up.

It still would have been nice to hear more constructive thought on the matter.

As others have stated, it's possible but highly unlikely and once a game starts down the road it rarely decides to turn around. There's only one Hilmar Veigar Pétursson, and he already works for CCP.

In which a AAA CEO apologizes for putting a cash shop into a p2p MMO
http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/2672

Yes, I know, understand and have posted such. What I don't quite understand is all who oppose the thought and immediately attack others with nonsense, as if they know the details and outcome. I've questioned them again and again to be met with the same replies; either I'm insane for continually missing some key well known information or...

[JatohCynn]

What I don't quite understand is all who oppose the thought and immediately attack others with nonsense, as if they know the details and outcome. I've questioned them again and again to be met with the same replies; either I'm insane for continually missing some key well known information or...

Because we've seen what happens when games do this. Either games put them in as a last ditch effort to stay afloat after going f2p and never manage to come back to what they were (SWToR Terra ect.), or they launch with one and relegate the majority of their in game additions to the cash shop and lock content behind RNG lottery boxes (GW2).

In short, people think it will ruin the game or betray it's spirit. You can't really expect to suggest such a change and not have people get upset by the idea.
I've watched worse vitriol come out of the GW2 forums over people just suggesting mounts in a game without any because it will "make it like WoW"

[JatohCynn]

I still continue to want to see more replies to OP, but doubt that will happen at this point. It is an honest question and I still agree that cash shops can be done in a way that does not negatively impact the community on a notable scale; has it been done so before? Yes, but not by many.

As others have stated, it's possible but highly unlikely and once a game starts down the road it rarely decides to turn around. There's only one Hilmar Veigar Pétursson, and he already works for CCP.

In which a AAA CEO apologizes for putting a cash shop into a p2p MMO
http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/2672

[Ikeda]

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What you're suggesting isn't even acceptable according to history. The cash shop TERA Online had before going F2P was nothing but vanity. Little useless skins for weapons that honestly weren't appealing in the least. They looked worse than what you could earn in the actual game. Yet the very idea of a double dipping cash shop drove people away no matter how little it affected them because of the principle behind it that it lowers the value of their subscription and makes the customer feel like they're being ripped off. So once again for the last freaking time THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS ACCEPTABLE CASH SHOP ITEMS FOR A P2P GAME. While fools like you have been beaten over the head by so many companies trying to screw you for every dime in your wallet that you're getting the delusion that it's acceptable to spread your cheeks before a company has even decided to screw you there's many others out there that believe that a cash shop in a P2P game, no matter how little affect it has on them, will devalue their subscription and generally makes them feel ripped off to the point that they simply quit the game. History has proven time and time again that the number of the players that think like this is large enough to kill off entire games when they leave. I swear the stupidity in this thread is going to give me a aneurism.