Acceptable Cash Shop Items: Suggestions!

[Edeline]

It would be okay to have services like fantasia, name change and server transfer. Glamour items on shop would just make everything worse, even if it's not P2W. People expect to get everything the game offers you, with your hard effort of farming, when you're paying for a subscription, and I agree.

[Kaze3434]

i only have one question. where is this cash shop idea even coming from? the fact that you can pay for retainers? or Fanatasia? seems pretty far fetched to jump up and down screaming "cash shop!" the retainers rides close, but the fact tahat you have to lvl them up and gear them out makes anything "broken" nonexistent. you pretty much just end up with more space.

[Luxx]

The moment this game starts selling the vanity stuff, barding, minions or more.
It's going to go downhill, fast. I ain't paying jack that I don't need to.

Any item that is pure vanity and gives you no edge in the game whatsoever is acceptable in any game. Can't see why anyone would think otherwise.

So, pretty outfits that have no stats, mounts with no speed boosts, fantasias, name changes...hats... Stuff.

Why would anyone want to pay for something when we're already getting it for free.
Stop giving them idea's people. >>

[Kat_Manx]

Any item that is pure vanity and gives you no edge in the game whatsoever is acceptable in any game. Can't see why anyone would think otherwise.

So, pretty outfits that have no stats, mounts with no speed boosts, fantasias, name changes...hats... Stuff.

[Niwashi]

Any item that is pure vanity and gives you no edge in the game whatsoever is acceptable in any game. Can't see why anyone would think otherwise.

All vanity items give you an edge in the game. They give you an edge on looking good, a trait that's at least as important as combat stats (and through most content more important).

And none of them belong in a cash shop if we're already paying a subscription. Cash shops are for F2P games, not subscription ones.

[Kat_Manx]

All vanity items give you an edge in the game. They give you an edge on looking good, a trait that's at least as important as combat stats (and through most content more important).

And none of them belong in a cash shop if we're already paying a subscription. Cash shops are for F2P games, not subscription ones.

Vanity edge. Can't say I have ever ran into that...

[Ikeda]

Any item that is pure vanity and gives you no edge in the game whatsoever is acceptable in any game. Can't see why anyone would think otherwise.

So, pretty outfits that have no stats, mounts with no speed boosts, fantasias, name changes...hats... Stuff.

It's because we're already getting vanity items with every freaking update FOR FREE. There is absolutely zero need for vanity items to be added to a cash shop when we're already getting them for free. Suddenly adding a cash shop isn't going to give us more vanity items than we're already getting. All they'll do is make the same vanity items they were already planning on giving us for free and instead of giving it as in-game content for free they'll slap a price tag on it. That's how this crap works. You have been deluded into thinking otherwise by F2P mmos and WoW that is the only mmo that will ever survive double dipping its customers. You would have some sort of argument if we weren't already getting vanity items for free but since we are this entire thread is pointless.

[Kat_Manx]

It's because we're already getting vanity items with every freaking update FOR FREE. There is absolutely zero need for vanity items to be added to a cash shop when we're already getting them for free. Suddenly adding a cash shop isn't going to give us more vanity items than we're already getting. All they'll do is make the same vanity items they were already planning giving us for free and instead of giving it as in-game content for free they'll slap a price tag on it. That's how this crap works. You have been deluded into thinking otherwise by F2P mmos and WoW that is the only mmo that will ever survive double dipping its customers. You would have some sort of argument if we weren't already getting vanity items for free but since we are this entire thread is pointless.

Really? We have like.. Dress, Sailor, Taffeta and Lightsteel so far.

If I was a game designer, I'd sure as heck be motivated do design faster if it meant real money.

[Ikeda]

Really? We have like.. Dress, Sailor, Taffeta and Lightsteel so far.

If I was a game designer, I'd sure as heck be motivated do design faster if it meant real money.

Everything from CT, upcoming gear from new CT, darklight has essentially been downgraded to vanity, the new i90 crafted gear, odin and behemoth gear, artisan spectacles, paragon gown and the crowns you get from achievements, all seasonal event gear, lightning event gear, the gear that drops from the new hard mode dungeons, and all PvP gear. With the addition of glamour, every outfit in the game can technically be considered vanity. Also they're already motivated enough to design vanity gear because they do it to retain subscriptions. I honestly don't know why I'm even having to convince you of something this obvious. The fact of the matter is adding a cash shop to a P2P mmo is considered a horrible business practice called double dipping the consumer. Every single mmo other than WoW that has attempted that practice has lost so many subscriptions they've been forced to either dumb down to F2P or shut down entirely. WoW has only survived doing it due to the sheer amount of subscribers it has. FFXIV with its miniscule 500k-1 mill+ subscribers does not stand a chance of surviving the massive loss of subscriptions a double dipping cash shop would cause. You and every other cash shop enthusiast here are essentially begging SE to kill off their own game. Either that or you secretly want the game to go F2P so you don't have to pay a subscription anymore.

Though I agree with what you mean, I have a quibble about your word choice in describing it. I'd change "we're already getting them for free" to "we're already getting them in exchange for the subscription money we're paying".

Oh come on you know what I mean >.>

[Niwashi]

It's because we're already getting vanity items with every freaking update FOR FREE. There is absolutely zero need for vanity items to be added to a cash shop when we're already getting them for free.

Though I agree with what you mean, I have a quibble about your word choice in describing it. I'd change "we're already getting them for free" to "we're already getting them in exchange for the subscription money we're paying".

Suddenly adding a cash shop isn't going to give us more vanity items than we're already getting. All they'll do is make the same vanity items they were already planning giving us for free and instead of giving it as in-game content for free they'll slap a price tag on it. That's how this crap works.

When LOTRO went F2P (and ever since then), we heard this a lot. People keep trying to defend the cash shop based on the fact that we can get a lot of things there that we didn't have before. They ignore the fact that before the cash shop was added, features were being added on a regular basis and everyone had access to them. After the cash shop was added, every new feature and nearly every new item has a separate price tag attached, even for those still paying a subscription. We stopped getting anything new added to the base game itself.