Acceptable Cash Shop Items: Suggestions!

[JatohCynn]

Cashshop games only have an incentive to keep you playing for as long as you need to to part with your money for vanity (hopefully) item X. Once you do that they don't care if you log in untill the next round of items. Take a look at the absolute snail pace of development and class balance that is going into GW2 if you really want to see it in practice.

They also have an incentive to lock everything "desirable" behind pay walls or sell shortcuts to grind/time gate content as the "middle aged gamer with a family and little time but disposable income" is the cash-shop lifeblood.

P2P games have an incentive to keep you always playing because they lose money when you take a break.

Ask yourselves one question. Do you want to play a game that caters to people who pay real money for vanity items or a game that focuses on content that keeps you playing?

[Skull_Angel]

Cashshop games only have an incentive to keep you playing for as long as you need to to part with your money for vanity (hopefully) item X. Once you do that they don't care if you log in untill the next round of items. Take a look at the absolute snail pace of development and class balance that is going into GW2 if you really want to see it in practice.

They also have an incentive to lock everything "desirable" behind pay walls or sell shortcuts to grind/time gate content as the "middle aged gamer with a family and little time but disposable income" is the cash-shop lifeblood.

Not quite correct there, that is the model for a P2W (Pay to Win) type game. Cash shops are a service that allow players to use real money to pay for in-game goods and/or services, nothing more or less; they don't define a payment model, they are simply an additional service.

[JatohCynn]

Pay to win simply means the cash shop gives you a distinct advantage in the game over one who abstains from it's use. They can sell items that are simply of a aesthetic nature and give no statistical advantage. That's not "pay to win". (debatable in games that focus on vanity as the main method of player progression)

Any game that doesn't charge a fee to play will have to sell virtual items to keep the servers and dev staff running.

The only other type of mmo that even exists is the super crappy browser ones that are full of advertisements, and usually also still sell stuff.

[Kiara1]

I'd be fine with a cash shop for vanity if they made loads of outfits. It's so sad to see people run around in the same glamours cause there are soo few to chose from

[KokonoeAiyoko]

I remember when games had cheat codes, then it became DLC.

Sad times.

[Saccharin]

There are no acceptable cash shop items in a sub game. If they can't sustain the game with the current sub price then increase the sub price.

[OMEGAlomania]

Come back in to make one last post, i'm not going to address anyone specifically or try to change anyones opinion, clearly they are beyond that.

Can I just say how disgusting I think it is that people not only EXPECT an in game cash shop these days, but that they are also willing to DEFEND it or activley attempt to get one added? Time was (feels like a stupid long time ago now) that when you bought a game or carried out a subscription, you got a complete purchase and access to everything within it. The disgusting anti consumer practices of companies like EA and the horrendous wild west of money grubbing microtransaction filled AppStore can't really have conditioned this many people to think this is okay, surely?

Oh, wait...

Eurgh.

Screw it, lets get them to turn it in to FFXIV All The Bravest and be done with it eh? At least I won't feel like i'm missing out on anything.

[Rose_Vilehart]

Bloodclaw stop it you jackass, this is a sub based game, they are not going to add a cash shop unless it turns ftp and considering how many more people they got than expected that wont happen for a very long time
Seriously though you keep proving how much of a troll you are, you complain about this game being p2w then start a thread about what we should have in cash shops....

[Razzle]

I think NA should just have their own server with cash shop and stuff since they seem to be the ones that like to throw additional money at everything to "keep the servers alive" lol

I'd like the game to stay P2P without cash shop, I already don't support the in-game benefits lolMogStation give you.

[Rose_Vilehart]

I think NA should just have their own server with cash shop and stuff since they seem to be the ones that like to throw money at everything to "keep the servers alive" lol

I'd like the game to stay P2P without cash shop, I already don't support the in-game benefits lolMogStation give you.

Those are just "play our game longer we give you stuff!" benefits