Turn 2 Enrage question

[My_Wet_Rooster]

Why do people always abuse this mechanic during Turn 2 of the BCoB? I've been in there, maybe, five or ten times, and every one of those runs does it. It's really annoying when everyone follows the same strategy every single time. If people are relying on this one tactic to defeat a boss, then the people are terrible and don't know how the fight works whatsoever.

[Lemon8or]

Because it's easier and less prone to errors which happen quite a lot in DF. Also because people never learnt it the Rot passing way.

[Woggers]

And the best part is, by passing the rot you actually finish the instance faster!! But most people today just like to mash buttons and not think about mechanics even though it takes 5-6 more minutes to do it that way.

[My_Wet_Rooster]

But then you have the people who leave the session if there isn't a Bard, or if they don't defeat the ADS on the first go.

[Sounders]

There's a risk that if you're in a PUG, you'll be with a bad group. And if you're in a bad group. you'll get multiple wipes and thus will take longer.
Do you really want to risk this, considering there's an easier way to clear the area?

[givemeraptors]

I wouldn't classify it as abuse. It's pretty clear you are meant to survive the initial start of enrage (though likely not the entire thing). Just look at all the other successful enrage mechanics in the game and it seems more deliberate. Also, T4 has a similar "soft" enrage, perhaps it was something they were experimenting with for First Coil?

Passing rot is faster sure, but in DF it is in your best interest to go with the easiest strategy as you don't know what level of communication or skill you're going to get and Echo will not save anyone from a botched rot pass.

[paradoxtxs]

Woggers is technically correct, but he left out a critical clause.

Non-enrage will finish the instance faster *IF* no one messes up the rot passing. One wipe and it's pretty much a wash in terms of time. More than that and you've lost time overall and are at risk of outright failure. Assuming flawless execution from a DF team usually isn't a formula for success in this game, so even people who know how to pass rot will usually just enrage to make sure the job gets done.

Unless the devs take steps, I think that rot passing is just going to get rarer and rarer as we go. The set teams that have the execution to make it worth it are all moving on to harder content with better rewards and it's just not worth the headaches for PUGs.

If you're desperate to do a rot passing group, you're probably going to have to PF it.

[Marianno]

The Allegan Rot mechanic kills a lot of people especially in the duty finder parties as Lemon mentioned earlier. Since this is easier and more efficient to some degree and somewhat easier to keep people alive people use this tactic. Thus, people stay alive, unless of course you have a bad healer, or you have bad DPS who aren't properly geared for the fight and can't DPS properly. Even then, the Echo buff being implemented allows for this tactic to be executed successfully every time, so people will continue to use it. Fortunately, as others have graciously mentioned, you'd be better off using a PF group to do the ROT mechanic. Personally, I think that it is helpful to know both mechanics, just my opinion and good luck on finding a PF group

[yahhzoo]

For some reason people can't handle passing rot. I like the enrage way better get to AOE heal my ass off.

[Alanon]

But then you have the people who leave the session if there isn't a Bard, or if they don't defeat the ADS on the first go.

You just answered your own damn question. How many times have you done a titan ex where you did everything perfect but the collective group beats it's head against a rock (pun intended) for an extended period of time because a few can't dodge? How about Ifrit ex? Levi Ex? Not that I do T2 anymore, or have ever PUG'd it period, but I do not need one more encounter to do where I am ready to pull my hair out because people can't learn basic fight mechanics....

If you wanna have "fun" doing something the "right" way, go DF/PF a Ex Primal