Thread: Pug 1.18 notes pre launch discussion

Originally Posted by Physic

i dont understand here, how is pug enhanced? you cant link flurry anymore, and its on a 60 second timer. light strike is on a 30 second timer and costs MP, but you have no way to get back mp other than between fights, which is ideally supposed to be short.
the increase the dmg of simian thrash, but how often will you be able to do it, with 30 seconds on light strike? 60 seconds on taunt? and decreasing cures mean that your lack of defense will be more penalized, you will be taking a larger risk, and using more of a lowering resource of MP when you try to land on evasion skills?

way i see it pug has taken a nerf. Lnc will rule basic DD and Arc is only slightly changed. Pug will no longer be able to tank anywhere near a glad, who has basically got a boost to DD and tanking.

Well, haymaker, victimize and simian were enhanced, light strike got recast but all other classes also had similar change so its not like light strike change will mess with PGL. Also, need to check if the light strike buff duration wasn't increased (i'd expect it to)...if it stays up the time light strike is down then its all good. Stygan is more than enough to recover light strike MP cost.

Taunt went up to 50 sec...ok. No one would use oly taunt to tank...its almost needed to have taunt and voke (and warmonger...i love it ^^) so in the end i'd expect taunt to be much more effective now with the new enmity algorithm than before...or it wouls stay with 20 sec recast.

But since i'm still trying to enter the game i'm just guessing stuff still...

Originally Posted by MeowyWowie

Kinda pissed about Light strike requiring MP now. Gonna miss tanking on PUG
Would've be nice if the gave us a "Meditate" type ability that restores MP, similar to Second Wind.

Other than that, the rest of the changes seem great and/or reasonable. I'm eager to see how Victimize II and Simian Thrash have changed.

yeah, everyone is gonna have to level a few levels on THM now for MP Tap....

Originally Posted by Coglin

yeah, everyone is gonna have to level a few levels on THM now for MP Tap....

siphon mp is by no means hax on subjob, it has a heavy recast timer, and doesnt even give that much mp. Even less when done on live monsters, so in long fights, its going to suck.

Originally Posted by Physic

siphon mp is by no means hax on subjob, it has a heavy recast timer, and doesnt even give that much mp. Even less when done on live monsters, so in long fights, its going to suck.

believe me I understand> I hate to say it though, but Pugs will get no sympathy from my or any other THM main. It was one thing to reign back emulate, everyone knew it was ofer the top, but THMs as a whole toom a beat down with the nerf bat ourselves.

So yeah, Its gonna suck, I get that. Try readinghow all the THM abilities got nerfed......

Well... you can only Flurry every 60 seconds. Flurry isn't the main source of hate anyway.

Yeah I was just talking to somebody about how you can't Perma-Light Strike (unless as you stated, the buff lasts 30+ seconds) anymore but it still. That doesn't stop you from using it in conjunction with Featherfoot II.

I'm not sure how Intimidation works with Accomplice but regardless, you're still stealing hate.

Light Strike's recast is currently @20secs. =x

Originally Posted by KRose

Light Strike's recast is currently @20secs. =x

Were you able to try it? i'm curious about its buff duration lenght.