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  1. #1
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    xDaemianx's Avatar
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    Daemian Basthion
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90

    Sacred soil & Shadow Flare are incompatible

    Time: May 29, 2014.
    Frequency: Always
    World name: Ragnarok
    Character name: Daemian Basthion
    NPC name: None
    Class/level: Scholar/50
    Party or solo: Solo
    Race: Miqo'te male
    In-game time: 3.40 p.m.
    Area and coordinates: Mor Drhona (22,27)

    Steps:
    I simply cast Aetherflow to get three stacks, then I used Sacred Soil and, immediately after, I cast Shadow Flare. Casting the second spell would uncast the effect of the first one (one way or the other: SS > SF; SF > SS)

    Thanks in advance.

    P.S: If this thread already exists, I'd like to apologize beforehand. I didn't find any thread addressing this bug (at least, in 2014).
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  2. #2
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    sanosuke001's Avatar
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    Aiya Lorana
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    Yeah, pretty sure it's intended. But it does suck.
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    Velo'a Nharoz
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    Mateus
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    This is intended to prevent SCH from having an advantage over SMN (since SMN doesn't have access to Sacred Soil).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velox View Post
    This is intended to prevent SCH from having an advantage over SMN (since SMN doesn't have access to Sacred Soil).
    The thing is... it's another Lv50 that both ARN classes learn (differently to SMN's > Enkindle, or Spur if you prefer since it's Lv45 as Sacred Soil, over SCH's > Sacred Soil).
    I mean, would it make sense that SMN's enkindle/spur cancelled the effect of Shadow Flare? It's not like SCH's Shadow Flare would inflict as much damage of that of a SMN, anyways.
    Besides, the tooltip does not state that they are incompatible
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    RaphaelDDL's Avatar
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    Da Lek
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Velox View Post
    This is intended to prevent SCH from having an advantage over SMN (since SMN doesn't have access to Sacred Soil).
    Then SMN has advantage over SCH because their Egi's can attack?
    Nah, this isn't an acceptable reason.
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    Fhorte Dakwhil
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaphaelDDL View Post
    Then SMN has advantage over SCH because their Egi's can attack?
    Nah, this isn't an acceptable reason.
    Well, SMN -is- a damage based job...
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  7. #7
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    But, again, SMN's got Physick to heal other characters with... Or Raise. That doesn't make him healer as much as Shadow Flare makes him DPS. But, anyways, the point of this topic is: The tooltip does not state that they are incompatible (not that X class should be deprived of certain skills) and, thus, both would be cast at any time w/o one of them being uncast.
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    Last edited by xDaemianx; 06-02-2014 at 09:42 PM. Reason: typ-0

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    Bombastica Davion
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    Working as intended.

    The bug report, if you want to submit one, should be to fix the tool tips. Not the skills.

    Sorry.
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    Etoile Elysium
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    Tonberry
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Scholars have a choice over offense (Shadow Flare) and defense (Sacred Soil). It's for balance purposes.
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  10. #10
    Player
    xDaemianx's Avatar
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    Is there any link you guys can provide about former tooltips or have they always been this way? (which would mean an actual response to the way they should work, as SE might have forgotten to state so or they simply derped when adjusting these two spells).
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