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    Request: Conditional macros

    Can we have a conditional statement for macros?

    If (A happens) do (B)

    Currently in game there are a lot of skills/abilities that is only available when a pre-condition is met, but yet, we cannot program any of the post-commands into the macros with its current simple execution format.

    Please add in a conditional statement so we can take our macros to the next level.

    jc
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    You mean bots ?
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    Wouldn't work without being a bot, the conditions would have to be constantly running or how would the macro know I'm behind a mob? So yeah what you are asking for is SE to make a legal bot.
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    No. Macros are limited deliberately to increase the skill ceiling.
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    Can they make a macro to play the game for us? I'd like that.
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    What pre-conditions? I know monks can't use certain skills in some stances, but for the most part everyone can use their skills without prerequisites.
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    Letting macros activate macros leads to botting, not conditionals. Not ones that only executes on button press at least. WoW had that type of conditional macros and as far as I know, it wasn't bot-able alone. Conditionals can save macro space AND hotbar space. Examples similar to what wow was capable of

    /micon (currentac)
    /if (full thrust = comboac)
    /ac full thrust
    /elseif (vorpal thrust = comboac)
    /ac vorpal thrust
    /else
    /ac true thrust

    This macro would combine the full thrust combo line into one button and switches the icon display according to what skill will activate when pressed. Instead of pressing 3 different buttons, you'll only have to press the same buttons 3 times. Another one:

    /micon (currentac)
    /if (stance = shield oath)
    /ac sword oath
    /else
    /ac shield oath

    This macro would combine the paladin oaths. If you have no oaths on or sword oath on, you switch to shield oath, if you are on shield oath, you will switch to sword oath and the icon will display accordingly.

    Now, I like macros but I understand that people would be against this type of macro anyway, because they believe that it'll be too easy and they're already pro and stuff or just general fear of botting (which already happens without these anyway). I've been playing fine with the current macro system but some people do have physical conditions that impairs their dexterity alot (I was arguing with someone with this condition in this very forum over a macro system he is requesting) and this will help them a lot I think. If conditional macros never happens in arr, I can deal with it but please understand that there are people playing with less fingers/thumbs, the shakes, tremors, whatever impairment that affects their hand dexterity.
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    Back in the beta, it was stated that any macro system will intentionally be worst than not using macros. In addition, any system similar to the gambit system will not be used for the same reason.
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    This was considered in the initial plans for the macro system and other systems in game that could benefit from it, they were thinking about implementing something resembling the Gambit system from Final Fantasy XII. In the end, they didn't choose to for some of the reasons already mentioned in previous posts.
    It should be noted, however, that this system is in the game and it is used in certain content. I forgot what specifically takes advantage of it, but your chocobo companion comes to mind.
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    Pre-conditions: Any combo action can use the macro enhancement I am requesting.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardes View Post
    Letting macros activate macros leads to botting, not conditionals.
    Finally someone understands and applied a little brain power.

    It seems to be a very rare condition nowadays. I wonder if it has become a conditional function of MMO players based on some other pre-conditions: ie: enough sleep, food, normal brain activities.

    BTW, re: gambit system, that is a fully self-functioning combat system, which is not what I am asking for.

    jc
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    Last edited by AttacKat; 05-29-2014 at 10:04 PM.