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    Quote Originally Posted by Grotesque View Post
    Reasoning: What else should the briars do apart from saving you from being devoured? Yeah they occupy space and do damage, but srsly? Their only real mechanic purpose is to save you. The Turn 9 argument doesn't count IMO.
    Not all mechanics are there to save you. You can also argue the briars are there to reduce the space of the arena you have while dealing damage to people standing in it. If LoS wasn't a valid method, they'd long fix the run through for other casting skills like Slipstream, Inferno Howl, etc. You can't run through Mountain Buster or Ifrit's flame breath so I think it belongs to a different category of skills.
    At the end of the day, do whatever you want OP, it's not an exploit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemon8or View Post
    Not all mechanics are there to save you. You can also argue the briars are there to reduce the space of the arena you have while dealing damage to people standing in it. If LoS wasn't a valid method, they'd long fix the run through for other casting skills like Slipstream, Inferno Howl, etc. You can't run through Mountain Buster or Ifrit's flame breath so I think it belongs to a different category of skills.
    At the end of the day, do whatever you want OP, it's not an exploit.
    Actually, no, they likely wouldn't. That's sort of how SE is with these things. Unless it's a serious exploit, they leave it so as to not "upset" players who do it that way and make them learn the fight differently. Also you could run through Ifrit for Howl on Extreme. So exploit, perhaps not, but that doesn't mean it was intended.
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    If there is not a briar in the middle and the honey potted person does LoS method that player still gets stunned on the run through. So I would assume this is working as entended.
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    I've seen people in T6 show off about how they can LOS the devour and then they mess up and still get devoured. Wouldn't call it an exploit at all, not one bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToffeeCoffee View Post
    I've seen people in T6 show off about how they can LOS the devour and then they mess up and still get devoured. Wouldn't call it an exploit at all, not one bit.
    First, I won't say it is or isn't an exploit. But the thing is, a game dev usually has mechanics work certain ways for a reason. Some things can be creative, and usually are ok, some things are not. If we used devour as an example, it may have been intended that you should 100% get eaten if you are not in a briar, so dodging it without standing in a briar, can be seen as an exploit by a particular dev. Another might not think so.

    And the reason for this is that some things don't really change the difficulty of the fight, but some do. If they make it far too easy, it defeats the point of the mechanic being there in the first place. It makes some think, why not just make it a big loot pinata if people keep trying to find a way to make it just that, a loot pinata.

    It's the same reason some people disagree with enrage on T2.
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    If SE want to tell players to stop LOS'ing devour until they modify the mechanic so that it cannot be escaped unless you stand in a briar, they will do so I'm sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToffeeCoffee View Post
    If SE want to tell players to stop LOS'ing devour until they modify the mechanic so that it cannot be escaped unless you stand in a briar, they will do so I'm sure.
    Maybe I should have been more clear, I was responding to this specific part of your post. "Wouldn't call it an exploit at all, not one bit" And no, they likely would not. SE has shown they won't fix it unless it's really severe, that doesn't make it not an exploit. It was pointed at your comment that is adamant it isn't an exploit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    Maybe I should have been more clear, I was responding to this specific part of your post. "Wouldn't call it an exploit at all, not one bit" And no, they likely would not. SE has shown they won't fix it unless it's really severe, that doesn't make it not an exploit. It was pointed at your comment that is adamant it isn't an exploit.
    It's only my opinion. And wow you have a lot of posts!
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    I'd hesitate to call this an exploit, the boss is following the same rules as any other mob in the game, and the game almost goes out of it's way to point out and teach you evasive tactics and how their targeting systems work. If suck/devour had cast bars and targeting zones on the floor, there probably wouldn't be much talk about this.
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    is it cheating? These questions will help you.

    did you use 3rd party software to do it?
    did you alter game script?

    probably not cheating then.

    also. the brambles don't work half the time in stopping you from being eaten.
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