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    How SE should make more money!

    This is not a demand but a plea.

    I see small items granting in-game bonuses and the ventures coupled with additional retainers giving them a rather BIG advantage as some really nice items can drop from that and now they are getting 2 more per day, twice as much. This is PAY TO WIN; there is no escaping that. However as is it is minimal.

    So to keep things from getting worse, and destroying my favorite game I have a suggestion; Sell Glamour items. A ton of level 1 nice looking items. Unique looking items at that, not just dyable versions of existing items, while that would also be nice.

    This keeps the game play pure and allows you to make more money; because honestly if this game gets much more pay to win, I don't think I will be sticking around, and I think a lot of people here would probably agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrinn View Post
    Do share what items retainers bring back that let you down T9. I want to see this P2W in action.
    Its called time and gil management. The Retainers go out and do stuff on their own and bring back items on their own. These items can be rare and give the player more gill allowing them to spend time doing other things like leveling up classes giving them better Cross Class skills allowing them to beat T9. Its a round about way, but these extra 2 retainers DO help in T9. They effect the entire game. And if you can't get 8k seals per day, then I am not going to tell you :P
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    My point of items that seem the most P2W is the Icarus Wing and Regain Feather. I never want to see these items ever again, or anything like it. I especially don't want to see them in the cash shop.

    I just don't want things to go any further in this direction. I am not saying this is F2P anywhere here; I am saying I don't want greed to turn this game into a P2W and giving suggestions on ways for SE to making money while keeping the game subscription based.

    This is not a thread proving what I said is true as to current content being P2W. This is a thread about making suggestions to SE on what they could do to keep the game making money, and more money with out effecting the challenge of the game. I will not post any more arguments on proving this game is going ever so slightly P2W any more, this is the wrong thread for that discussion.
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    Last edited by Bloodclaw; 05-29-2014 at 05:12 AM.

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    How does this not make the game feel more like f2p? F2P shower the customer with ways to give the company more money. I have paid enough and do not want to pay anymore. Just want to enjoy what I have so far. Looking forward to patch 2.8.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WHS View Post
    How does this not make the game feel more like f2p? F2P shower the customer with ways to give the company more money. I have paid enough and do not want to pay anymore. Just want to enjoy what I have so far. Looking forward to patch 2.8.
    That is next year sometime, how can you wait so long

    2.28 and 2.3 ftw though
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    Quote Originally Posted by WHS View Post
    How does this not make the game feel more like f2p? F2P shower the customer with ways to give the company more money. I have paid enough and do not want to pay anymore. Just want to enjoy what I have so far. Looking forward to patch 2.8.
    I am sorry but when did I say F2P?
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    Do share what items retainers bring back that let you down T9. I want to see this P2W in action.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrinn View Post
    Do share what items retainers bring back that let you down T9. I want to see this P2W in action.
    My retainers bring allagan coins I can sell for my T9 repairs, that's clearly P2W!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrinn View Post
    Do share what items retainers bring back that let you down T9. I want to see this P2W in action.
    This, the only thing you can get to help in SCoB is stuff to make gil to get ilvl 90 crafted gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrinn View Post
    Do share what items retainers bring back that let you down T9. I want to see this P2W in action.
    Added question to OP
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloodclaw View Post
    This is not a demand but a plea.

    I see small items granting in-game bonuses and the ventures coupled with additional retainers giving them a rather BIG advantage as some really nice items can drop from that and now they are getting 2 more per day, twice as much. This is PAY TO WIN; there is no escaping that. However as is it is minimal..
    Can you please tell me your source, for getting unlimited Venture currency?
    With 2 retainers u can use up all your Venture currency in no time, no 3rd or 4th retainer will give you any advantage at this point.
    Also things like Fantasia, server changes and name changes, need to cost real money. I dont get how people see this as "first steps into P2W".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charisma View Post
    Can you please tell me your source, for getting unlimited Venture currency?
    You know you can buy ventures with grand company seals?
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