How SE should make more money!

[Charisma]

You know you can buy ventures with grand company seals?

As long as you think farming company seals 12 hrs a day just to send off 4 retainers every hour is superior to actually farming content .. lol

[ShinkuTachi]

As long as you think farming company seals 12 hrs a day just to send off 4 retainers every hour is superior to actually farming content .. lol

You can do more than FATEing for seals. For example, when farming BL (hard), Halatali (hard), The Lost City of Amdapor, and even earlier dungeons; you can trade all those gear drops for GC seals. That's what I do personally.

[NintenPyjak64]

Can you please tell me your source, for getting unlimited Venture currency?
With 2 retainers u can use up all your Venture currency in no time, no 3rd or 4th retainer will give you any advantage at this point.
Also things like Fantasia, server changes and name changes, need to cost real money. I dont get how people see this as "first steps into P2W".

Treasure maps give 20s at a time. My FC runs maps weekly and a few of us get quite a ton. Sitting on about 100+ right now so I shouldn't be running out for a while

[Arrak]

Treasure maps give 20s at a time. My FC runs maps weekly and a few of us get quite a ton. Sitting on about 100+ right now so I shouldn't be running out for a while

I only have 3 retainers and 100 seals goes really quick. Technically I could spend up to 144 a day. Quick venture is where its at.

[Bloodclaw]

Wow, how quickly people jump to defend SE with out thinking about thing.

[Ryans]

Wow, how quickly people jump to defend SE with out thinking about thing.

Wow, how quick someone comes up with a ridiculous idea to "alleviate" the problems that they created in their own mind.

Retainers bring nothing that actually help you in end game. Can you get some stuff to make money from? Sure. But what are you going to spend it on? Ilvl 90 gear is handed out from Brayflox and Coil 1-4 are pretty easy for the majority of players participating to farm. It's not defending SE, it's stating obvious rebuttals to a "cure" of a non-existent design flaw.

[Bloodclaw]

Wow, how quick someone comes up with a ridiculous idea to "alleviate" the problems that they created in their own mind.

Retainers bring nothing that actually help you in end game. Can you get some stuff to make money from? Sure. But what are you going to spend it on? Ilvl 90 gear is handed out from Brayflox and Coil 1-4 are pretty easy for the majority of players participating to farm. It's not defending SE, it's stating obvious rebuttals to a "cure" of a non-existent design flaw.

You don't see how us as a fan and consumer might be groomed into thinking P2W is okay while thinking its not P2W? Fine then.

[Moheeheeko]

You don't see how us as a fan and consumer might be groomed into thinking P2W is okay while thinking its not P2W? Fine then.

Except there is NOTHING pay to win about 2 more retainers, not in the slightest.

[Bloodclaw]

Except there is NOTHING pay to win about 2 more retainers, not in the slightest.

Bull, any time you pay for ANY benefit it effects the entire game making it easier. Even the special head gear from the special edition is P2W as it gives you an EXP bonus till 10th level. So you are wrong and there is nothing else left to it other than you and everyone else's fan craze defense of SE.

Just because it is P2W doesn't mean it needs to be game breaking or drastic, but it is still there.

[NintenPyjak64]

As long as it's vanity only, I'm totally for it. That's usually what I spent a majority of my money on in F2P MMOs. I love vanity/collectible systems too much