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    Copy pasta'd my comment from an old reddit thread:

    Maybe have the penalty increase within a certain amount of time? Very rough example:
    In a 20 minute period
    First withdrawal - no penalty - things happen in life
    Second withdrawal - 3 minute penalty before you can requeue
    Third Withdrawal - 6 minute penalty
    Fourth withdrawal - 12 minute penalty
    Fifth withdrawal - 30 minute lockout
    30 minutes may seem a bit harsh, but c'mon. If you're legitimately needing to withdraw that many times, perhaps you should back away from the game and take care of whatever the hell it is that you need to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    Copy pasta'd my comment from an old reddit thread:

    Maybe have the penalty increase within a certain amount of time? Very rough example:
    In a 20 minute period
    First withdrawal - no penalty - things happen in life
    Second withdrawal - 3 minute penalty before you can requeue
    Third Withdrawal - 6 minute penalty
    Fourth withdrawal - 12 minute penalty
    Fifth withdrawal - 30 minute lockout
    30 minutes may seem a bit harsh, but c'mon. If you're legitimately needing to withdraw that many times, perhaps you should back away from the game and take care of whatever the hell it is that you need to do.
    I like this very much.
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  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCurls View Post
    I like this very much.
    While I think it would be awesome (I mean, c'mon, I did come up with it..., I can't see SE wanting to implement a 5-step penalty process on withdrawals We can dream though!
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    A friend of mine had the cool idea (I'm all for it) the first person who leaves eats a "time remaining in duty" penalty. lol leave at the start of a 120min duty? 120 min penalty. 46min remain? 46min penalty. Anything below 30min, just default to the old 30min timer.
    Really the only thing thats gonna deter a tank (but anyone who leaves really).... they know now, atm if they leave and eat 30min, they'll get a duty instantly.... I like the "time remaining in duty" idea! Thoughts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drivont View Post
    I like the "time remaining in duty" idea! Thoughts?
    This is brilliant! (No irony, no sarcasm here.)
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    what about those that disconnect not due to their doing ? what about those that HAVE to leave for RL issues ? should they be penalized ?

    in theory all good but in practice too many unknowns, *innocent* shouldnt pay for the rest.

    Mei
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeiUshu View Post
    what about those that HAVE to leave for RL issues ?
    If they have RL issues, they'll have plenty time to fix them. It would not be a punishment but a hidden favor
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    There are reasons to withdraw, yes.

    My suggestion for penalties involves habitual withdrawal.

    I liked the five-tiered penalization example.

    First withdraw within 30 mins. = no penalty, 2nd = 3 mins. & so forth.
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    Just as long as we get one freebie. There is nothing worse then sitting on the toilet and hearing that god damned queue sound.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gesser View Post
    It was bad enough before, but has just gotten so much worse with the advent of win-trading in PvP (combined with the gross win-loss ratio:reward disparity).

    During off-peak hours, I see it app the time... I wait 4 mins for a PvP Queue, pop, 7/8, withdrawal, repeat. Occurs numerous times over consecutively.

    What is happening? Either bots/trolls or teams individually queuing over voice chat trying to land into the same arena for greater rewards.

    It's gotta stop right away SE. Long overdue IMHO.


    Related Issue: being unable to accept a queue for a class which you've switched out from & are stuck mid-craft/combat. It's currently often too risky to fight in many areas or craft while waiting for a queue... feels far too inhibiting, lacks freedom.
    Yes this is desperately need, especially with the prospect of 72 man frontline coming, i shiver thinking about withdraw trolls(or whatever) among that huge a number of people
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