Why does everyone blame the tank?

[Wadoka]

At this point I'd say "It's not really your fault" but I went into my first story-mode Brayflox knowing about the poison... and I went in with a stash of HQ Antidote, because I knew I might end up with a SCH, or a WHM/CNJ who didn't Esuna.

As Tanks... Semper paratus, man. Semper paratus...

[IlikeStuff]

At this point I'd say "It's not really your fault" but I went into my first story-mode Brayflox knowing about the poison... and I went in with a stash of HQ Antidote, because I knew I might end up with a SCH, or a WHM/CNJ who didn't Esuna.

As Tanks... Semper paratus, man. Semper paratus...

I'll know to take some Hi Antidote for Brayflox, I won't be there for a while

In my case I don't have many combo's yet I take a fair bit of repetitive combo abuse. I don't know anyone that owns this game so every dungeon is randoms. That's all fine and I'm enjoying it. It's just a pity that there's so many who expect better when the option isn't available.

[Wadoka]

Focusing on the combo is pretty much all there is to do for a while there. It's the major complaint here about being a Paladin.

"All I do is stand there, stare at Titan's crotch and spam Rage of Halone...."

But... you also gotta position the enemy. Brayflox's story mode is where you come in to your own there, keeping the enemy positioned so it doesn't self-heal and doesn't toast your party members.

1-2-3... hit Flash every 20 seconds or so to keep the Blind debuff up... watch for and *anticipate* stunnable attacks so you can interrupt with shield bash... turn another page in the "Paladin's Weekly" fashion magazine... pop Rampart again... still alive? Good...

[Nayto]

If the tank dies, its the healers fault.
If the healer dies, its the tanks fault.
If the dps die, it is their own damn fault.

Wait lemme fix that.
If the tank dies, he didn't mitigate properly.
If the DPS dies, they didn't dodge.
If the healers dies, see above and make sure tank mitigated/kept hate and DPS are dodging/passing DPS checks. If not, submit a ticket to healing internal affairs and we'll validate your actions in a month's time.

[PROBOUND]

Comes with the Job Description. Much like the Director of a Film. Even if the Actors were terrible and the film was underbudget, the Director is always to blame.

[Aeora]

If the tank dies, its the healers fault.
If the healer dies, its the tanks fault.
If the dps die, it is their own damn fault.

yeah, but no 'cause . . . . . VARIABLES!!!!!!

Like for instance - silly dps attacking random targets and pulling off the hate > Healer has to heal more people or spam medica > healer gets hate > Tank panics > Healer dies > team die. . .

Just 1 situation that I'm sure you've all seen.

[Leigaon]

There are a lot of reasons most tanks don't do random groups and no amount of rewards will prevent that.

This is true, I've caught people being just horrible to tanks recently. Nothing S.E. can do to have you want to go into a run just to be treated like dirt by a DPS.

I joined a run yesterday with a BLM who was in the middle of yelling at the PLD on his first time in vigil, and just got ugly. Finally voted to dismiss the run, as he went through his rant of everything that was going wrong in the run which surprisingly didn't include himself. It was an interesting thing to walk into.

But tanks get blamed first, part of it's because everyone else doesn't think they did anything wrong. Though really it's a mixture of everyone contributing in some way and there's a few variations of how things can go down that would cause a pt to die and not just the tanks fault either. But those DPS..are sensitive little flowers that you can't tell them that.

[Llyren]

yeah, but no 'cause . . . . . VARIABLES!!!!!!

Like for instance - silly dps attacking random targets and pulling off the hate > Healer has to heal more people or spam medica > healer gets hate > Tank panics > Healer dies > team die. . .

Just 1 situation that I'm sure you've all seen.

Tanks fault, Tank panic'd. Healer should of let DPS die, but not their fault, they where healing. DPS is often dumb, but there is why there are both Tanks and vote kicks...

[Nicobo]

....we completed the instance. After the fight the DRG blames me...

So this drg knew the best moment to upset you.
Take it easy, maybe he just didn't love lalafell. ^^;

[Synestr]

Wait lemme fix that.
If the tank dies, he didn't mitigate properly.
If the DPS dies, they didn't dodge.
If the healers dies, see above and make sure tank mitigated/kept hate and DPS are dodging/passing DPS checks.

Hmm let me further correct this so we are all clear on responsibility.

If tank dies, he/she didn't dodge or mitigate right.
If DPS dies, tank didn't hold hate well enough and needs to l2p
If heals dies, then tank needs to learn to use provoke, cover and hold hate and l2p moar.

It's always the tanks fault, even when the dipshit dps aggros the room or the lofty heals casts regen on you before you pull... they are infallible. We are just a dumb meat shield.

Syn