In Game DPS Meter

[Gormogon]

If people really want to challenge themselves. PvP is the best place to start working on your situational awareness and your reaction/reflex to inconsistencies. You may not always win but you got something to work on.

DPS meters aren't needed.

You have to put in the work and effort to be good. Watching numbers wont magically turn you into a disciplined player.

[Tiggy]

If people really want to challenge themselves. PvP is the best place to start working on your situational awareness and your reaction/reflex to inconsistencies. You may not always win but you got something to work on.

DPS meters aren't needed.

You have to put in the work and effort to be good. Watching numbers wont magically turn you into a disciplined player.

DPSing in PvP is exceptionally different than PvE.
Tanking in PvP is non existant.

The only one with any realistic cross-over is healing. Even then you're trying to put people to sleep party of the time. Something you never have to do in PvE. These two games modes are so different that one is not training for the other at all. Especially once you factor in PvP specific skills.

We aren't necessarily asking for meters and the current idea bouncing around doesn't include them at all.

I'm starting to really hate that I didn't think through the title of this thread more carefully. It's bringing in all kinds of misconceptions about the goal.

[Raenryong]

If people really want to challenge themselves. PvP is the best place to start working on your situational awareness and your reaction/reflex to inconsistencies. You may not always win but you got something to work on.

DPS meters aren't needed.

You have to put in the work and effort to be good. Watching numbers wont magically turn you into a disciplined player.

How do you know you're doing everything right with no effective feedback?

[Pooky_Pasha]

How do you know you're doing everything right with no effective feedback?

I agree. Two people can say they have an optimal rotation, yet get two wildly different results. There is no way to know to compare them without feedback in the form of numbers. I run with a BRD who used way to many Straight Shots. I chatted with him one day, explained to him the situation and asked to focus on watching the Straight Shot buff and preferring Heavy Shot over Straight Shot. A week later, he improved by around 5dps. Another week, he was improved by around 10dps. Now I'm trying to get him comfortable with using Repelling Shot and Shadowbind (when appropriate) as soon as it's off cooldown.

Also, any kind of personal "dps meter" is useless unless it shows a damage spread and you know some kind of baseline to go by (ie how the damage spread should look, and what the expected average dps should be). You can't really get good measurements on those without input from others.