In Game DPS Meter

[Tiggy]

"Disclose self parser or kick. We have a party parser to expose liars." You'll see something along these lines all over party finder. There's no way around the cons of parsers unless it can't be used in instances.

We aren't suggesting it even have a parser nor to to have one in instances at all. We are currently bouncing around a solo-guildhest type idea that is displayed over the last few pages of this thread.

You don't understand, even if you have a "hidden" server side parser. Then you completely undermine the legitimacy of that data.

Despite the fact we aren't trying to add a parser I can't agree with this. If it did have a parser then it would only make the results more legitimate.

It then becomes pointless. If you don't open it up to the community, it's better to just not have one.

Like how Yoshi-P said we shouldn't use parsers but they can't stop it so we should be reasonable? That isn't open to PS3 and PS4 users and that certainly didn't fix the problem.

And opening a DPS meter thats individualized would not work either. Because without context it means nothing.

The entire point is to understand where the ceiling on your ability is in order to improve it. That still has value for practicing. Once practiced the skills are then directly useful in real content. That's why this was considered to be a tool from the beginning. It is most definitely relevant.

I understand your thread is very lengthy, and many of these points have been addressed. But your ideas are just not very good.
And you keep saying that we are negative and not constructive, but sometimes the answer is just that you are just wrong.

Simply saying no, or that won't work is not constructive. Just saying that someone is wrong is not constructive. A reasonable explination of WHY it is wrong is constructive, but simple responses like you just used are not.

There is a reason, many reasons actually why none of this has been implemented as you have suggested. Because they are bad ideas, without easy and efficient implementations.

False. There are indeed reasonable implenations, but you aren't interested in exploring any of them. You just want to come in and say "no it won't work you're just wrong."

The reason you are getting "non constructive" criticism is because you can't take criticism.

I have taken it quite well in numerous instances throughout this thread. What I will not take well is people like you who want to come in and just s**t on everyone elses parade because "bad people will do bad things." You aren't encouraging discussion. You aren't looking at the actual ideas presented and expressing any specific comments. You're just being negative.

WE GET IT. You don't like the idea.

If you don't have actual constructive things to add to the ideas being bounced around in order to come up with a good implementation then can you please just accept that we get it and let us move on? If we have this discussion it doesn't hurt you, doesn't stop your day from being happy, and doesn't even matter if square doesn't like what we say. You coming here to say the same thing over and over and over isn't adding anything to our conversation other than negativity. If Square ever reads this thread your disagreement will surely be noted. The number of times you reiterate does not ram it home more.