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    Quote Originally Posted by KingOfAbyss View Post
    All of this just because people wants to be number 1 in the entire World, for bragging.
    Actually id like it for those people you pick up to fill out your raid group, like the Dragoon my FC picked up to fill out our t6 run who turned out to be doing about 80 dps in i94 gear. No real way to see that without it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moheeheeko View Post
    80 dps in i94 gear.
    I.... did not know that was possible. On topic, I do want a DPS meter that only the player can see like on a dummy that we can put at our house. The reason is if a person can work up their maximum output, when they get into the same situation and perform at the same efficiency, the output will be higher than before. 85% efficiency on a 360 DPS will be higher than 85% efficiency on a 320 DPS so there are merits to let people work out their rotations and actually see numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moheeheeko View Post
    Actually id like it for those people you pick up to fill out your raid group, like the Dragoon my FC picked up to fill out our t6 run who turned out to be doing about 80 dps in i94 gear. No real way to see that without it.
    Heya Asrah ^^

    Question: Did you cleared T6? If yes, then no problem.

    If no, after about 2 tries, and everyone notes someone is not playing a job to it's full capacities, perhaps asking if everything is ok? Perhaps he's like my GF, in Japan playing on NA servers.. by the time she sees the fireball icon in T5 (sometimes she don't even see it) - it's too late..

    What we did to circumvent: Every other players sticks around her to mitigate dmg, with the OT, because they see her Icon over her head. Works. A good communication can go a long way in MMOs..
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingOfAbyss View Post
    Heya Asrah ^^

    Question: Did you cleared T6? If yes, then no problem.
    T6 is a pretty big uptime fight. If that drg is parsing 80dps, you don't need a parser to realize it. It's very simple to see someone not hitting the boss/adds and it's mechanics.

    I would chalk that up to another strawman. You really don't need a parser in t6 to know who is pulling their weight. It's pretty obvious who is dead weight in T6. Then entire fight is pretty much a multi-task game.

    While it probably does help to know a rough parse number. It really matters very little as the only push is at the end of after super slugs, and well a 1-2-3 drg is pretty obvious and a dead drg is more obvious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kukurumei View Post

    I would chalk that up to another strawman.


    Also, if you are doing T6 properly your entire raid is stacked on top of each other, its a little harder to see who is doing what than you make it seem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moheeheeko View Post


    Also, if you are doing T6 properly your entire raid is stacked on top of each other, its a little harder to see who is doing what than you make it seem.
    Bulb, bees, and attacks for basics.

    Heavy thrust debuff is easy to spot. heck bards will see it naturally
    Phebo, Dsc, chaos debuff also easy to spot.

    And even more basic. 80dps either means death (how can you not see it?)

    And even even more obvious. Auto attack. With such a big uptime on the boss, anyone who's standing really far back is obviously not carrying their weight on top of getting kill by thorns. (auto attack is something like 30-40% of a drgs dps on that fight).

    Heck with a parse of 80dps, I don't even need to parse. The bulb/bees would be a dead giveaway. Dragon Fire dive is an obvious sign of a burst incoming whenever a middle bulb popped.

    I think a real problem here is not even the parsing people are...actually doing their jobs... Instead of looking at a parse and pointing fingers. How about looking at the video and seeing who did what/what not. That solves more problems then numbers on a paper.

    Beating bees for the first time, didn't go "your parse sucks or not enough healing". It was watching the video of the run and going....ooooohhhh!

    If anything video recording should be put into ff14, not a dps tool.
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    Last edited by kukurumei; 05-28-2014 at 01:44 AM.

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