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    Player Xakery's Avatar
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    I like what OP said. I'm sure we'd still have people posting screenshots of their damage to flaunt their epeen. This is the world we live in.
    Too often I am in parties with someone randomly parsing dps and bragging or insulting others. I'm sure most times people just make shit up. They just want to tear down people for whatever reason and take the fun out of the game. I don't care the damage I do. My only concern is keeping eye on enemy attacks to either: dodge, stun, or silence. As long as we win, there should be no arguments, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xakery View Post
    I don't care the damage I do. My only concern is keeping eye on enemy attacks to either: dodge, stun, or silence. As long as we win, there should be no arguments, right?
    Correct!
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    I found it funny, square enix it's against the tools for parse, but they add the dummies so people practice rotations and check the dps, but how do we really know the dps we do if we can't ever see the results.
    Can't add a feature to see how much damage are you doing compared to your gear on that dummies?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rabntah View Post
    I found it funny, square enix it's against the tools for parse, but they add the dummies so people practice rotations and check the dps, but how do we really know the dps we do if we can't ever see the results.
    Can't add a feature to see how much damage are you doing compared to your gear on that dummies?
    If every boss fight was tank n spank you would have an argument.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gormogon View Post
    If every boss fight was tank n spank you would have an argument.
    We do have an arguement. You just want to limit the options people have to learn how to play the game better. The only way that seems to be ok for you is to force them into end game and to let them fail over and over until somehow they figure it out. There are zero merits to providing no other methods to help people practice the techniques required for late game content. You're just forcing people to do it one way. The way you want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gormogon View Post
    If every boss fight was tank n spank you would have an argument.
    You're hellbent on opposing the notion of any form of a DPS parser, we get it.
    He has an argument. Once DPS is calculated, you can simply substract based on how long you stay away from the target, due to dodging red zones, or whatever other silly mechanics the boss may throw at you.
    This is commonly calculated by the average DPS meters found in other games and the existing ones for this game, as well.

    And before you you jump in and start nonsense about how dodging is more important than your damage dealt: Enrage mechanics.
    Sometimes it's better to eat damage to max your entire group's output.
    Again, another common sense tactic.
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    Tiggy it's useless to argue with Gormogon. He obviously just wants the game to be so easy my pet cat can sleep on the keyboard to victory. I guess that he doesn't realize that you can master mechanics of a fight and never take unnecessary damage yet still fail because of tight dps checks. So really that leaves SE with three options.

    1. Create their own self parsing feature for the game.
    2. Remove all dps checks from the game.
    3. Do nothing.
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    Last edited by Awrini; 05-30-2014 at 03:17 AM.

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    Adding a parser would be dumb from SE's standpoint.

    1. parsers are already available, so why would they do extra work?
    2. parsers are used by people who care about their dps, not baddies
    3. if you add the parser, you will just add a way for people to discriminate against others, when it isn't necessary because the good players already have parsers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MythToken View Post
    Adding a parser would be dumb from SE's standpoint.

    1. parsers are already available, so why would they do extra work?
    2. parsers are used by people who care about their dps, not baddies
    3. if you add the parser, you will just add a way for people to discriminate against others, when it isn't necessary because the good players already have parsers.
    Please pay closer attention to the thread please. We are not asking for an in game parser.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MythToken View Post
    To implement any sort of Meter/Rating system/ect all the other dumb ideas you have had since starting this thread, it would be numbers based on an internal parser.
    Which means all of your ideas are constricted to the limits of said parser.

    I'll quote myself since you only quoted the first part of my comment, in which I made fun of you for being a d**che.

    This point still stands, all of your ideas about in game anything, will be based off of internal parsing data.
    So all of the cons that come with that, apply to all of your ideas.
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    Last edited by MythToken; 05-30-2014 at 03:56 AM.

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