Sooooo...late May for 2.28?

**Velo_Vandore** · 05-30-2014 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by AlyssaFhey

Funny people said I was unjustified with being upset about the last delay, can I be justifiably upset now?

You can be upset if you want, but software releases being a few days later than estimated isn't exactly unheard of, and shouldn't really cause any of us a major inconvenience. Do we really need to be at the Square-enix HQ with torches and pickforks over this?? Even if the power out is not the full reason for the delays I doubt the team are twiddling their thumbs.

I'm not saying we should just worship everything the game developers say and do. We are paying customers and we should voice our concerns / dissatisfaction, but we should also show some understanding and appreciation where due.

**Mattlex** · 05-30-2014 10:09 PM

Annual Power downs are not unusual and not just a JP thing, you'll find that this happens in a lot of places. Certainly in the UK buildings have to be powered down for maintenance at least once a year to maintain services that run 24/7 and to test backup power generators/UPS systems to ensure they will continue to work if there ever was an unintentional power outage.

It's all tied in with business continuity and risk management, but most people don't know it happens because it usually gets done on weekends or times least disruptive to a business - in the case of an MMO there is no time during the day where it will go unnoticed.

**Drako** · 05-30-2014 10:17 PM

Originally Posted by LeonBlade

I don't get why people assume that there is some conspiracy theory with the actual reason for the delay... it's just a delay, if they had to delay it for other reasons, they would just say the real reason.

I believe its just that there is a growing aspect of our society that has become very much Cynical. Look it up in the dictionary(or wiki kids) you might be surprised to find that definition fits you. Unfortunately it fits me too, but somehow it doesn't effect anything in my perception of what SE is doing. Maybe I'm too much of a fan boy for it to.

More OT, based on all the "holy crap, they are fixing that?" fixes that are going into 2.28, I'm more then happy to wait. Maybe it will mean 1 or 2 additional QoL fixes. This sub-patch so far is easily going to beat any others before it. I could go as far as saying it is better then some of the main patches, as far as getting QoL things resolved. I'm very excited about this patch.

**Themis** · 05-30-2014 11:17 PM

Originally Posted by Mattlex

Annual Power downs are not unusual and not just a JP thing, you'll find that this happens in a lot of places. Certainly in the UK buildings have to be powered down for maintenance at least once a year to maintain services that run 24/7 and to test backup power generators/UPS systems to ensure they will continue to work if there ever was an unintentional power outage.

It's all tied in with business continuity and risk management, but most people don't know it happens because it usually gets done on weekends or times least disruptive to a business - in the case of an MMO there is no time during the day where it will go unnoticed.

We have a week long period where things like this are tested, configured etc just after Christmas. Because we close for Christmas and New Year (Bank holidays), we just figure it's easier to shut down for the whole period from Christmas Day until the start of week after New Year's Day (eg, this year we'll close from 25th Dec until the 5th January).

It's a lot more common than people might think and like you say, it tends to happen at times where less people will be affected by it so they rarely even notice that it actually happens.

The patch will come when it does. A few days extra is not going to cause any issues for people. If it does, I'd be asking other kinds of questions.

**JTribal** · 05-31-2014 12:25 AM

Originally Posted by AlyssaFhey

Funny people said I was unjustified with being upset about the last delay, can I be justifiably upset now?

You can be upset if you want, I personally just don't see the point..

Would you rather they have had rushed the patch without taking the necessary time to fix bugs, etc? Pretty sure if that had happened, there would be more threads on here complaining about it then there are threads complaining about the patch not getting here on time.

**Xmbei** · 05-31-2014 12:33 AM

Originally Posted by Sevokevo_Royuki

This explains it all.. And just thinking of equipment that runs 24/7 with no inspections.... (in which the system has to be shut down) can cause serious hazards.. especially working with Nucelur powered Generators.. imagian it.. it getting no yearly inspection and then something happens that causes the Power plant to explode and cause major radiation leaks... Oh man.. That scares the hell out of me and I don't even live in Japan.

Also.. The Google translations for the page are pretty good.

Thats not how nuclear power works... its not some crazy omg its going to explode any minute. There is way more to what happened with the fukushima incident then the fear that media tells you. Last year NRC came out with a review of the event. But beyond that Nuclear Power is still far safer than any other power source available. The radiation from Fukushima is less then what you get from just being on an international air flight. (I know people call credibility checks, and you can believe me or not, but I live in Japan, and I use to work on nuclear power for 6 years. Including sitting right on top of a reactor control rod, not scared of anything it is perfectly safe)

edit: let me rephrase... They are perfectly safe as long there is competent workers and maintenance personnel, as well as managers that are not shady government regulation revolving door jerks that led to much oversight prior to 3/11

**FritoBandito** · 05-31-2014 12:35 AM

Originally Posted by AlyssaFhey

Funny people said I was unjustified with being upset about the last delay, can I be justifiably upset now?

Nope! Just keep listening to the funny people.

**Ghastly** · 05-31-2014 01:52 AM

I just want to give Camate a big thanks to the Square-Enix FFXIV team for communicating with us. Very much appreciated, I'm so psyched for next week!

**Nanaho** · 05-31-2014 02:03 AM

Originally Posted by DoctaruRavenbe

Maybe its something done in Japan?

Could have a lot to do with the whole losing there Main power plant, and etc. etc from that massive Tsunami and Earthquake they had.

**AlyssaFhey** · 05-31-2014 04:03 AM

Originally Posted by Velo_Vandore

You can be upset if you want, but software releases being a few days later than estimated isn't exactly unheard of, and shouldn't really cause any of us a major inconvenience. Do we really need to be at the Square-enix HQ with torches and pickforks over this?? Even if the power out is not the full reason for the delays I doubt the team are twiddling their thumbs.

I'm not saying we should just worship everything the game developers say and do. We are paying customers and we should voice our concerns / dissatisfaction, but we should also show some understanding and appreciation where due.

Well, they delayed it twice now, yet people seem quite satisfied still. What I'm asking when is it too much? What if they delay it again? Or decide they want to combine 2.3 and 2.28? Is that still ok? What about those of who pay, yet have nothing worth doing? I mean if I had known it would be out next week instead of on time, I wouldn't have paid for last month. Now I'm out $15 and nothing to show for it. Besides that I have to start studying for some exams next week, I'm not gonna have time to try out the content till maybe two weeks after.

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