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    Player
    Mirakumi's Avatar
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    Lady Zelda
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    Leviathan
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    Archer Lv 92

    Am I being elitist? Honest question.

    I recently started my own Extreme FC LS on Zodiark and we've gotten a good progression in. At least we've gotten to Titan Ex Super Bombs.

    However there was another person on my server who seemed to be rather aggressive in tells. He was upset that I told his FC member that he should place his Garuda egi off the side of Titan so it doesn't take damage when the floor falls. (Because he had Garuda on heel the whole time and it kept dying.) I also told him he needed to learn his rotation more because he wasn't using shadowflare ever. This FC member was their leader.

    He told me I need to slow down and that I'm an elitist. I argued that I'm not the type of person to stay quiet and I think its better to try to help others right away. (I was not calling this person names. I just simply said, I think it would be better if you tried X approach.) Again I was slammed with the term elitist. That I should just let X person be and they will figure it out on their own.

    So what I'm trying to grasp at this forum is that should I shut my mouth and let people play how they want to? I have never kicked anyone out of my LS or GRP. I have offered ways to help them improve their dps such as the class forums here and even I have watched videos on their class rotations for them.

    The SMN thanked me for helping him with Garuda egi later on, but his FC leader since then has been very hostile - pushing that I need to get over myself. "It's just a game"
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    yahhzoo's Avatar
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    Yui Stark
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    Cactuar
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    I don't think you are acting as a elitist, you were merely trying to help this player and suggest ideas that will better him. The FC leader did not need to act hostile towards you for offering information especially since it seems like you offered your advice politely. As a new player I love when people give me suggestions instead of just flipping out over a small mistake.
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    Lufie Newleaf
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    Ragnarok
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    Monk Lv 100
    You are giving good advice there. There's a certain skill to phrasing advice in such a way that you do not come across as an elitist. It's easier to sound superior and being hard on somebody than it is to sound like you are being sincerely helpful.
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    Luna Nattvind
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    Omega
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Yes, you were elitist, didn't you know? Anyone who can play this game is an elitist according to most of the community.
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    Learn, explore, and think for yourself. Make your choices, take actions, and let yourself be free.

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    Shenandoah's Avatar
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    Yamete Oniichan
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    Hyperion
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    Some people throw the term elitist too lightly lol
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    Player MeiUshu's Avatar
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    Sophia Sormanu
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    let me ask you this question ..do you ALWAYS believe what others do tell you ? meaning perfect unknowns that you have never seen or been with other then maybe an occasional chat or encounter? will you take for granted that what they tell you is really the way to go about ? that they know what they are talking about ?
    to give you an honest opinion on whether you were or were not an elitist is a bit difficult, what we miss is the *tone* on how you said it or on how it was perceived, it was condescending and meant to put down the person then yes you were an elitist, if was said in a more decent way and really could be perceived as someone giving an advice, then no you were not. Keep in mind that what you thought you came out as isnt necesseraly as how others truely perceived what you said, not to mention that you said it in the opne to everybody and for some that is an insult.

    Just me though

    Mei
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    Amberion Eurelt
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    The word elitist has change its meaning. It now just means having a different opinion.
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    Bynder Whitehowler
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    Phoenix
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    It's hard to say from just hearing one side of the story, or not seeing the conversation itself, but sounds like you were just offering polite advice. If so I wouldn't say you were being elitist at all, but just remember some people aren't receptive to critique, so sometimes it's not useful. If someone doesn't respond well to a suggestion I wouldn't bother pushing it since they'll just get upset and it won't have any positive effect. Sometimes people can't take advice / criticism cause they're egotistical, others may just have low self esteem which I can sympathize with more. That said, I hope you won't be put off giving advice to others ^^
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    Last edited by Velo_Vandore; 05-23-2014 at 10:15 PM.

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    Luna Nattvind
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    Omega
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Amberion View Post
    The word elitist has change its meaning. It now just means having a different opinion.
    No, it means being able to play the game and wanting to help others to be the best they can be.
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    Learn, explore, and think for yourself. Make your choices, take actions, and let yourself be free.

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    Awrini Bellato
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    People who call others "elitist" aren't welcome in my parties. They generally have no inclination to learn or improve and use that word as an insult to attempt to mask their incompetence.
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