Please implement a notification for the type of lot party members cast on an item.

[Spider-Dan]

Even though 'need' roles could be ninja attempts (depending on the rules set forth by the party), there's really not much you can do about it. I mean, so you see a guy rolled need on an item. Oh no, he's a ninja! But what are you going to do about it?

My suggestion would eliminate situations where people lot on something they aren't supposed to and then claim that it was accidental; you could simply wait for everyone that's not supposed to lot to pass first (which would be seen by everyone in party), or have the party leader lot last, etc. It's not foolproof, but would put a lot more social pressure on "accidental" ninja lots.

Also, as far as SE is concerned, ninjaing doesn't 'exist'. If you complain about someone ninjaing an item, they didn't technically do anything wrong according to SE's rules of need/greed.

My understanding is that ninjalotting can be reported, and (after log investigation) GMs will remove the ninjaed item from the offender's inventory.

While we're discussing this, an option to pass after you've already rolled need or greed would be nice.

I would be in favor of this, as well.

I don't want to take something I don't need if someone else in the group may have a real use for it, but I hate to see valuable items go uncollected because nobody had a direct use for it. To solve this, I think we need a fourth category in the Need/Greed/Pass setup.

I'm not sure if this solution already exists, but all they would need to fix your issue would be to have unlotted items drop to people who didn't click Pass. Then you would have the following 4 categories:

1) Need
2) Greed
3) (didn't pass)
4) Pass

Items would only hit the floor if everyone actually passed.

[TheCurls]

My understanding is that ninjalotting can be reported, and (after log investigation) GMs will remove the ninjaed item from the offender's inventory.

Ninjalotting cannot be reported. If your class can Need on something, then you have every right to roll Need, regardless of PF rules.

Basically, if you want a specific piece of loot, join the queue as the class it is for, or risk someone rolling Need and taking it. Loot nazis are more annoying than RMT tells.

[Ryuko]

Ninjalotting cannot be reported. If your class can Need on something, then you have every right to roll Need, regardless of PF rules.

Basically, if you want a specific piece of loot, join the queue as the class it is for, or risk someone rolling Need and taking it. Loot nazis are more annoying than RMT tells.

I was under this impression too. Can anyone give me an example where 'ninjaing' an item in a greed party was actually punished by a GM (or at least a statement by GMs that it's reportable)? I've just assumed that ninjaing is player interpretation, and they can't really take any action against it. If it is reportable, there are a lot of people I should have reported. XD

[Kikosho]

Ninjalotting cannot be reported. If your class can Need on something, then you have every right to roll Need, regardless of PF rules.

Basically, if you want a specific piece of loot, join the queue as the class it is for, or risk someone rolling Need and taking it. Loot nazis are more annoying than RMT tells.

Correction, "Ninjalotting" can be reported as the devs already made a comment about this a while ago. If the party sets some lotting rules and everyone agrees to those rules, such as greed only, whoever breaks that player agreement -can- be reported. So no, you can't just willy nilly Need on an item if you agreed to Greed roll with the party.

For reference:

Greetings,

One of the first things we are looking into doing is adding a system so information is displayed in the chat log regarding who lotted on an item.

We've received a lot of requests to make it possible to pass after you've already lotted on an item, but due to the current system as well as prospects for the future we do not have any plans to implement this at the moment.

Also, while this isn't limited to only the topic at hand, it's extremely difficult to prevent human error by creating perfect rules within the game system as it becomes something that forces players to go through a cumbersome process. (Such as going through multiple confirmation windows.)

Naturally we will continue to make changes to the system for improvements, but ultimately we feel that there are situations where we would like you to decide on the rules amongst yourselves. Before entering a duty, make sure that all party members are informed of the agreement and who is able to lot on which item. All party members should agree to those terms before entering to ensure an agreement is clearly understood.

Breaking these agreements, or behavior that imposes on other players' enjoyment of the game, will not be tolerated. If after an investigation it's confirmed that a player clearly understood the rules when joining a group and still acted in such a manner, proper action will be taken against the player, which may include confiscation of the item or account suspension, so please avoid doing anything like this.