Adding a political system

[zaviermhigo]

I'm a poli sci major with ambition to run for office some day, but I've never even thought about running for office in game, I wouldn't want to let people down in game if I had some real life obligation to do. Doesn't meant I'm anti this system I like the ideas, my only problem is if the population dies further later on or something like that, it may just be the same die hard people in a position of power, and it wouldn't shift around like it might if there were more people.

[SuzakuCMX]

I agree the system that would need to go into place in order for something like this to work is retarded and should not be done.

My only argument is that it could be done whether its a good idea or not.

Like you said above, introducing factors like grand companies into the player run political systems would be much to complicated for a Video game; especially when they could just leave that mechanic out and still have a functioning system.

Edit: I forgot to answer the first sentence in your post >< yes i think there would have to be a branch of some sort involving a high amount of people.

Ah I see :P Yes it could be done, but it wouldn't be "healthy" for the game and it would probably end up either being ignored or abused to hell.

[Dyne]

So we're thinking more than one person per branch now? Then it's too complicated, too many people, power spread way too thin for a video game.

Also, Grand Companies very much so affect politics. They use the city's resources and are used to unite the city-states to fight against an enemy, not just to protect each separate city-state.

You are thinking small. Grand companies are something that is going to happen in a few months from now and will maybe last until an expansion comes out with much more interesting content. Unless of course it becomes on par with besieged and/or dynamis. Grand Companies cannot be the end all/be all for the game otherwise people will get tired of it eventually and look for another game to play.

[Bled]

Ah I see :P Yes it could be done, but it wouldn't be "healthy" for the game and it would probably end up either being ignored or abused to hell.

Agreed Like i said earlier this game is a second life not IRL, a political system to the extent that we are talking is asinine.

[SuzakuCMX]

You are thinking small. Grand companies are something that is going to happen in a few months from now and will maybe last until an expansion comes out with much more interesting content. Unless of course it becomes on par with besieged and/or dynamis. Grand Companies cannot be the end all/be all for the game otherwise people will get tired of it eventually and look for another game to play.

Stop putting words in my mouth, broski. It doesn't help your point at all.

Not saying Grand Companies will be all the content we need, I'm saying they function well enough as an additional NPC political system and that PC political systems would be a waste of resources at this point (and probably every other point) and not work as intended at all.

[Preypacer]

Thanks, but no thanks.

Would work fine and I'd be all for it in an MMO designed entirely around PvP and/or other forms of direct player competition for territory control; like TERA, or Lineage 2. I played Lineage 2 for years and loved the siege and territory control aspect of it. However, L2 was also designed 100% around that concept, from the ground up. TERA is designed entirely around that concept 100% from the ground up. It works in those games because the games are, at their core, about direct player competition and influence in that capacity.

FFXIV is not.

Given that FFXIV already has established lore, established rulership in each city-state and a storyline that revolves around different nations all dealing with a common foe, it would seem extremely arbitrary, tacked-on and out of place, frankly. FFXIV's setting is not based around the people of Eorzea in constant competition for control and influence over entire cities, ever trying to wrest control away from each other.

I think influence over regions, like how they did it in XI with Conquest for example*, is more appropriate in a setting like XIV's than a direct competition system. It was a system that allowed people to get control over a region in the game, and brought with it a number of benefits.


*To those who are frothing at the mouth and seeing red because I referenced XI in a XIV thread... I don't care. It's a relevant comparison. Deal with it.

[Dyne]

Ah I see :P Yes it could be done, but it wouldn't be "healthy" for the game and it would probably end up either being ignored or abused to hell.

Abusing your power can be a lot of fun. Viva Caligula! That all depends if you can be popular enough to get people to vote for you.

[Bled]

Abusing your power can be a lot of fun. Viva Caligula! That all depends if you can be popular enough to get people to vote for you.

You should play a game called Diplomacy, i feel if politics is your drive you would find it much more fun then FFXIV.

[SuzakuCMX]

Abusing your power can be a lot of fun. Viva Caligula! That all depends if you can be popular enough to get people to vote for you.

So you talk about needing checks and balances and then say abusing the power would be fun...

Make up your mind.

[Elkwood]

I would like to be able to run as ruler of a country, change taxes, build buildings, make campaign promises (Free Chocobos anyone?) stuff like that. In order to do this, they can set it up so the person can only rule maybe 4 weeks, and another election can run again before their term is up. The person would need as much support from their linkshell as possible and maybe build quite a good reputation with everyone in the game so they can get enough votes, or they can resort to bribery and maybe rule with an iron fist if they want to. Voting booths can be placed in the adventurer's guild.

So you ask, Why Dyne? Why would you want this to happen in this game? Are you crazy?

Yes, I am crazy, but the answer to the later questions is that I would like a very involved community of gamers. There are already a handful of gamers that you already know quite well in your servers, and I would like that reputation to be significant. In ffxi, most people knew the good, very skilled players, as well as the best linkshell leaders, and they also knew the bad ones. They also remember those random acts of kindness made by certain players. If this forums are any evidence, most people want some drastic changes in the game, and their opinions are being voiced out with a passion.

I wouldn't say, do this now. I want the devs to fix the game and make it fun first obviously. But, I do want this planned sometime in the future.

This bombed in Terra and it would Bomb here as well