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    Jollyy5's Avatar
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    Raul Prower
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    Exodus
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    Dragoon Lv 71

    Dragoons need to be buffed...

    ..Or classes balanced otherwise, I'm a bit surprised that I didn't see a thread about this.

    I don't like it that while Dragoons are a pure DPS class with two stuns but no support skills, Monk can still dish out more damage AND have support skills, namely Mantra, Arm of the Destroyer(silence), One Ilm Punch(Dispell for adds) and Dragon Kick for 10% INT reduction.

    As a pure DPS class, Dragoons should naturally have higher DPS than monks, or have some sort of support skills like they do, not to mention that when I was browsing the questions and answers about patch 2.3, I almost flipped a table when I saw that a question about "buffing Black Mages" got through.

    Am I really the only one who thinks this crap does not, or shouldn't fly?

    P.S. Don't even mention Disembowel to aid Bards, I'm aware of it, but I don't like being only good for buffing their DPS.
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    Last edited by Jollyy5; 05-29-2014 at 06:46 PM.

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    Ardan Lauriers
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Jollyy5 View Post
    I think it's absurd, that while Dragoons are a pure DPS class with no support skills, Monk can still dish out more damage AND have support skills, namely Mantra, Arm of the Destroyer(silence) and One Ilm Punch(Dispell).
    Stopped reading at this line.
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    Ikohyu Kaito
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jollyy5 View Post
    P.S. Don't even mention Disembowel to aid Bards, I'm aware of it, but I don't feel like being a Bard's "squire".
    You don't have to feel like it but you are.
    A Bard is in pretty much every group and you boost his DPS by 10% which pretty much makes up for the DPS you do less than a monk, now take 2 bards and you're more useful than a monk.
    Whats important is the overall damage you contribute for your Raid DPS not your own to wank off on your high numbers, if you want that you're playing the wrong job.
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    Aria Placida
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    Lamia
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    Did. . .did you seriously just try to pretend that One Ilm Punch is useful? And ignore Disembowel? What did I just read?
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    Altimis Farron
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    Aegis
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    wait until Yoshida decide to introduce Dragoon old traditional pet

    Wyvern want to say hello
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    Raein Tilgung
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    Wyverns aren't Dragoon's traditional pet. No dragoon in the entire series, until XI, has had a Wyvern.
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    Evercy Warclan
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    Leviathan
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Tilgung View Post
    Wyverns aren't Dragoon's traditional pet. No dragoon in the entire series, until XI, has had a Wyvern.
    FF2 would like a word with you

    Yes it wasn't a wyvern usable in combat but it was a VERY important plot device surrounding Richard and the last of his tradition
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    Svana Fyth
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by NintenPyjak64 View Post
    FF2 would like a word with you

    Yes it wasn't a wyvern usable in combat but it was a VERY important plot device surrounding Richard and the last of his tradition
    Mount =/= Pet

    FF2 as an example would simply be a reason to add a Drg-based Mount similar to the ones they added for tanks, obtained from some dragoon-based achievement.
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    Ricdeau Cyton
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    Monk Lv 60
    You used One Ilm Punch as an example for a Monk's utility...seriously? I want you to name one boss fight in level 50 content where it works. The balance between Monk and Dragoon is pretty good, and better than what most MMOs have given us for classes performing the same role. With that being said every class has it's issues, and they will always need some fine tuning. However, what you are asking for is silly. Explain why dragoons should "naturally have higher DPS than Monks", and why Disembowel shouldn't be considered especially since every raid is going to have a Bard.

    It's been widely known that Black Mage was getting a buff, and even in their response to the question they said Black Mage was not the only class that will receive adjustments.
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    Ayukawa Madoka
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    Excalibur
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jollyy5 View Post

    P.S. Don't even mention Disembowel to aid Bards, I'm aware of it, but I don't feel like being a Bard's "squire".
    Guess Bards shouldn't put up Foes, or else they'll feel like someone else's patsy.

    Don't be a shitter and learn to play DRG. The only fight where a MNK will beat a DRG or a SMN is a fight where they keep GL3 up the entire time, and even then a good DRG can still overtake them if they do the proper longassfuck combo. You also have two stuns, the bard (and yourself) buff you refuse to use, a self TP regen and BfB.

    MNK has to be in a certain form to use their silence or perfect stance. OIP is completely useless in raid content. You are being a bad DRG and whining for no reason.
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