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    Fawkes Macleod
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    The thing that bothers me is that every class other than WHM can use stoneskin at those levels. At least make skills other people can use through cross-classing available.
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    Blue Kitty
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    Moogle
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    Conjurer Lv 84
    Quote Originally Posted by Fawkes View Post
    The thing that bothers me is that every class other than WHM can use stoneskin at those levels. At least make skills other people can use through cross-classing available.
    That's a bug though as it locks your allowed cross skills under 30 because of the job crystal. That's my guess anyway.
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    King Canadane
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 100
    It already feels extremely cheap to bring a Scholar to any dungeon that syncs you to under level 30. They weren't designed for Eos in mind, but a Scholar can still summon Eos.
    Just put the tank on /follow and afk. That's how trivial it is.

    Yes, things are based on potency, but the dungeons were designed for a certain balance. Scholar being the extreme example of breaking it, but others would also contribute more to breaking that balance if you had all your abilities.
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    Raito Izumi
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    Odin
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Level synced dps with all skills + tank with no tank stance and no butcher block/ halone = tank will never be able to keep aggro. Then he gets carried by level synced healer that ends up tanking, and the tank will reach end game without learning how to tank properly.
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    Sapphic Meow
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    Odin
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by IzumiRaito View Post
    Level synced dps with all skills + tank with no tank stance and no butcher block/ halone = tank will never be able to keep aggro. Then he gets carried by level synced healer that ends up tanking, and the tank will reach end game without learning how to tank properly.
    Its not stopped em as it is now XD
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    Rakashu Action
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    Leviathan
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by IzumiRaito View Post
    Level synced dps with all skills + tank with no tank stance and no butcher block/ halone = tank will never be able to keep aggro. Then he gets carried by level synced healer that ends up tanking, and the tank will reach end game without learning how to tank properly.
    Even with out having all of my skills, its still extremely easy to pull aggro off of a new tank. 3 rotations deep with the most minimal setup of skills, and I'm already at the no.1 spot. I know others have had the same problem, and it causes a lot of frustration in low level dungeons.
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    Tal Young
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Can we at least keep our abilities in FATEs.
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    Abyss King
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    Gilgamesh
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    Can we at least keep our abilities in FATEs.
    Same thing here: if a lower Fate was designed to be completed in 3 mins, keeping your abilities would make it down faster, when lower lvl ones don't even have a chocobo, and by the time they arrive, it's done, that's not helping them.

    SE will put timers on Fates: still, when a lower lvl one will check where to go next, and everyone lvl 50 getting Atmas, they would still be the ones who have to pay for this.
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    King Canadane
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 100
    If DPS have all skills why wouldn't tanks? Shield Oath and Defiance would be available I would imagine in this scenario.
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    Kuzie Kukuri
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    If DPS have all skills why wouldn't tanks? Shield Oath and Defiance would be available I would imagine in this scenario.
    But a new tank wouldn't have those unlocked yet, so they might not have Shield Oath or Defiance.
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