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  1. #11
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    HakuroDK's Avatar
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    Kinnison Cooke
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    Malboro
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lithera View Post
    If you're running out of TP on WAR you're doing it wrong. Burning out on Overpower spam on speedruns doesn't count. Plus giving them LNC skills gives them BFB...bad enough I see WARs who don't hit defensive CDs. Imagine those WARs then hitting BFB for teh leet Deeps. Keen Flurry wouldn't be bad though.
    Well, if the WAR dies, there's no way to recover TP normally, whereas almost every other class has an ability (natural or CC) that restores their resources when being raised in the middle of combat. That's my biggest concern in every difficult fight. If WARs had Invigorate, that would be a lot easier for me to manage that kind of situation.

    Also, the Keen Flurry wouldn't hurt much either, and Blood for Blood is a great PVP skill the way PVP strats are right now.
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  2. #12
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    Diavolo's Avatar
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    Maximilian Vitalis
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    I'm still waiting on an explanation on how BRD can't use any healing spells, but has a healing limit break...
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  3. #13
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    Character
    Deeg Astra
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    In 1.0, it was the other way around. Most abilities were cross-classable and only a few weren't. The original intent was for players to mix-match the class abilities to make their job. Want to be a paladin? Equip a melee weapon and add on some Conjury spells. The problem however was that it wasn't designed well enough as no one felt really unique and parties were massive zerg fests. The system simply just wasn't fun and needed a lot of work.

    With the introduction of Jobs, classes were fine-tuned and specialized a tad. A lot of that freedom was removed.
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  4. #14
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    UBERHAXED's Avatar
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    Seraph Khalid
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Diavolo View Post
    I'm still waiting on an explanation on how BRD can't use any healing spells, but has a healing limit break...
    You answered your own inquiry. Bard has a healing LB because it lacks other healing skills.
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  5. #15
    Player Lithera's Avatar
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    Randolont Althoreaux
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by HakuroDK View Post
    Well, if the WAR dies, there's no way to recover TP normally, whereas almost every other class has an ability (natural or CC) that restores their resources when being raised in the middle of combat. That's my biggest concern in every difficult fight. If WARs had Invigorate, that would be a lot easier for me to manage that kind of situation.

    Also, the Keen Flurry wouldn't hurt much either, and Blood for Blood is a great PVP skill the way PVP strats are right now.
    In that case PLD needs it more. PLD's main AoE hate grab as well as their tank stance require MP. PLD needs TP to use their combo to recover MP.
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  6. #16
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    Ninix's Avatar
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    Talim Amariyo
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Legacy_Wolfwood View Post
    its fine the way it is.
    Yeah, it's great. It's such a wonderfully deep system that offers lots of diversity in how I build my character. I mean just look at all the cool choices my BLM can pick from ARC!

    Quote Originally Posted by UBERHAXED View Post
    You answered your own inquiry. Bard has a healing LB because it lacks other healing skills.
    No, I'm pretty sure it's because they only made four limit break animations and neither of the DPS ones make any sense for a bow user.
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    Last edited by Ninix; 05-27-2014 at 06:23 AM.

  7. #17
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    Luxx's Avatar
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    Cress Albane
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Diavolo View Post
    I'm still waiting on an explanation on how BRD can't use any healing spells, but has a healing limit break...
    Because Bard is suppose to be a support class, but sucks till end-game where are used often more. In 1.0 I believe they use to have actual buffs that gives like Phy/Magic def up and raises hp/mp for a period of time or something...Can't find previous skill list.
    They removed 2 really good support skills at that. Though if a healer dies, and you have a bard they can be handy...LB system is rushed anyways.
    And they kinda screwed up bard to be a DPS/Support where they should just be ranger and find a way to make a good support class fit in this game.

    Edit: Forgot to mention CNJ use to be a req in 1.0, they changed it to PGL.
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    Last edited by Luxx; 05-27-2014 at 06:39 AM.

  8. #18
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    iWaRTuRTLe's Avatar
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    Loves Spooning
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    Jenova
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    yeah just make it like 1.0 …..
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  9. #19
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    Morzone Vandalfo
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 90
    There are a few situations where it would make more sense(for balance) to have cross-class, one of them being WAR and TP regeneration upon Raise/Ressuretion.


    And as far as the BRD LB goes.. I am a firm believer of it being a balancing choice.
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    Morzone Vandalfo on Siren
    Main job: SCH/MNK
    Raid job: Gathering
    PS5 based. PSN ID: natek_morzy

  10. #20
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    Character
    Juni Esura
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 70
    I don't even use all my cross class slots.
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