DPS Tool

[Raenryong]

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If your dps is really good, you won't be affected much by getting jailed etc. What you think happens is that anyone who isn't top DPS or thereabouts gets kicked - in reality, you only get kicked if you're vastly underperforming. Being jailed won't cause that.

Your ideas of what occurs with parser use and what actually happens are vastly different. You assume this worst case scenario where everyone who isn't completely flawless (ignoring mechanics) gets kicked, when this is not the case.

Also, if you keep dying due to avoidable mechanics, you are not a very good DPS regardless of your raw output. A parser lets you check the cause of death too!

[kukurumei]

I should leave an otherwise promising party because one DD can't do his job? Why not replace *him* and keep the rest of the party?

That's the definition of harassment and elitism. You.DO.realize.that. what you said exactly why SE won't do it. Completely proving the point of the argument by your very response.

There are many many methods including breaking pt and reforming without said person. All you proved is that, is that "me first" whining that puts PFs on drama, and singling out a person to public scrutiny.

If one person isn't upto the job the PF or DF naturally breaks up. That's how it works. Not how you envision your ways to be.

Thats.quite.damning

[Raenryong]

That's the definition of harassment and elitism. You.DO.realize.that. what you said exactly why SE won't do it. Completely proving the point of the argument by your very response.

There are many many methods including breaking pt and reforming without said person. All you proved is that, is that "me first" whining that puts PFs on drama, and singling out a person to public scrutiny.

If one person isn't upto the job the PF or DF naturally breaks up. That's how it works. Not how you envision your ways to be.

Thats.quite.damning

That's not harassment. That's removing an incompetent member.

If you get a healer who can't heal or a tank who can't survive, what is your recommended course of action?

[tOnni3]

Last week back when my raid was practicing T8, we pug a bard who wear Animus and 4 high allagan pieces.
We assigned him only HM+BJ and one tower. Global dps was a bit slow as we barely kill it when Avatar cast Atomic Ray at 60% cast bar (1 sec)
What we saw from parser is other dps dealt 300+ dps but him only did 230 dps.
Without parser, who think he was holding our global dps back considering to his gear ?
Additionally, with parser, we know he used Straight Shot as main skill, didn't keep DoTs uptime, barely used Blunt Arrow and Flame Arrow.

We are not telling him that he was under performing since we just wanted to learn mechanic but fortunately we made it.
This week, he is asking to pick him up again for T8. Instead of deny him, we will give him some friendly advise to make our task easier.

TL;DR : Better gear doesn't mean better dps, parser can tell. And we can use parser to improve community.

[juniglee]

That's not harassment. That's removing an incompetent member.

If you get a healer who can't heal or a tank who can't survive, what is your recommended course of action?

If I had to guess, keep the name of the 6 other competent members, fully disband the party, and reform by re-inviting those 6, then looking for another member (although if you are on PF, I don't know how you will attempt to hide from this person you were attempting to boot).

Basically, a soft kick. A roundabout way to kicking someone.

[Dhex]

If I had to guess, keep the name of the 6 other competent members, fully disband the party, and reform by re-inviting those 6.

Basically, a soft kick. A longabout way to kicking someone.

Ah yes... disband for an innocuous reason and then reform. The incompetent player is none-the-wiser.


Literally.

[Dano]

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was he doing ballad, foe or paeon? coz that'll reduce a brd's overall dps.

[Tashigi]

That's the definition of harassment and elitism.

No it isn't. But your response is the definition of exaggerating.
You can take an inexperienced/poor performer, offer him help and if he's willing to learn, nearly instantly and vastly improve your entire group performance.
If he isn't willing to pull his weight, then why should the entire group suffer as a result? This would be the definition of harassment and no group should have to put up with it.

[tOnni3]

was he doing ballad, foe or paeon? coz that'll reduce a brd's overall dps.

He was singing ballad 1 time during mid-wave as far as I noticed.
And I think no TP song as melee dps didn't request for it.

Seriously TP,MP song alone won't hurt dps this much, and obviously I found the reason by parser as mentioned

[juniglee]

Ah yes... disband for an innocuous reason and then reform. The incompetent player is none-the-wiser.


Literally.

Said player is then probably recycled back into the PF/DF system, goes into another party, drags that party down. Cycle repeats. Player never improves, nobody gets harassed, everyone is happy!