DPS Tool

[scarebearz]

with the plague of elitists in this game I can see why the scale goes to the bad side.

Seems more like a plague of carebears to be honest.

If I was under performing I'd want to know about it, so that I could try and improve, not have it hidden from me in case it hurts my feelings lol.

[Alukah]

Seems more like a plague of carebears to be honest.

If I was under performing I'd want to know about it, so that I could try and improve, not have it hidden from me in case it hurts my feelings lol.

If you enjoy being insulted then good for you.

With this playerbase, a tool like that would hardly be used for constructive criticism.

[Esmian]

If you enjoy being insulted then good for you.

With this playerbase, a tool like that would hardly be used for constructive criticism.

I'm honestly at a loss for what kind of player base wouldn't have people reacting negatively if they knew people were under performing by a large degree.

[Alukah]

I'm honestly at a loss for what kind of player base wouldn't have people reacting negatively if they knew people were under performing by a large degree.

Are you asking how many of us would insult someone else for having low damage instead of giving advice?

[Esmian]

Are you asking how many of us would insult someone else for having low damage instead of giving advice?

Well I fail to see how people who say give advice don't realize that when they give advice they're vocally acknowledging that the person in question is under performing by whatever standards they've set and that they should accept the advice(whether helpful or not) to meet your expectations of how they should be playing. Whether you think you're being nice about it or not both methods are effectively criticizing how that person is playing the game by your own standards.

[skaterger]

Well I fail to see how people who say give advice don't realize that when they give advice they're vocally acknowledging that the person in question is under performing by whatever standards they've set and that they should accept the advice(whether helpful or not) to meet your expectations of how they should be playing. Whether you think you're being nice about it or not both methods are effectively criticizing how that person is playing the game by your own standards.

Are you seriously implying that giving advice is the same as criticising or insulting? Compare these two statements and tell me if they're the same.

"Hey baning the spumes to the head/tail can increase your dps"

"Omg why didn't you cast bane on the spumes you noob? L2P."


Unless you tell me you have no desire to improve whatsoever as a player I fail to see your point.

[Esmian]

snip.

In both cases you're singling out the SMN's dps not being up to par if the party isn't meeting a dps check for the encounter. And my point was that keeping parsers out of the game is pointless because regardless of the tone of the person there will always be player opinion of how much dps each class can do in a fight(unless you're telling players not to have an opinion), particularly with this game due to the many dps checks that exist. The only thing "official" parsers will do is help pinpoint where people can improve and reduce baseless criticisms because dps information would be readily available for everyone to see.

[Raenryong]

If you enjoy being insulted then good for you.

With this playerbase, a tool like that would hardly be used for constructive criticism.

The problem with this playerbase is that it's extremely low-skill and carebear, not that it's "elitist".

@Gormogon: as always, you are making huge assumptions. Ignoring all of those, in your case where people complain when people with lower ilevel gear join your party - what is a better test of skill, a dps meter (which shows output) or just a base ilevel check (which, as I'm sure everyone agrees, does not represent skill)? People will stop complaining about that ilevel70 BLM who is in your speedrun when it turns out that s/he is doing 600+ dps.