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    Pylfer's Avatar
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    Xanthe Dreadcasque
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    I think including a DPS gauge wouldn't be too bad of an idea.

    Make it so that people can opt out of having their info showed in the party if they're not to confident in their DPS and don't want to be judged on it (especially for people who are just getting into the end game thing). However, for those who do want to use it, I think that it would be a great tool to figure out if people who focus solely on DPS to determine if rotations are doing more DPS output, or just refine combos/rotations in general.

    That or implement something that let's us adjust the level on training dummies, or what monster (that we have unlocked/fought) the dummies stats should be set to and then let us unload on it for however long we want and then let us know what our DPS output at the end of a slotted time is.


    i.e. Training Dummy is set to have the same stats as Twintania. I equip my glazenfaust and full weathered gear and unload a full combo within the 2 minute time I set (so I do my best rotations in 2 minutes before timer ends [generally enough time for me to hit about 0ish TP]). At the end the game calculates my DPS and displays it on screen saying I put out, for example, 400 DPS over 2minutes.
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    Xatsh Vei
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    Why not just have a dps tool that shows only your dps... and no one else can see it it except you.

    Cannot judge others if you cannot see it.
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    To prevent yourself from being baited into arguments by trolls in these forums: Click their name > view profile > add to ignore list. This hides all of that person's posts in threads you visit. Replying to nonsense only encourages more of it.
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    Zyxt Fair
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    Because to SE, and some people, better gear equates to higher damage. Doesn't matter if your rotation sucks, you can always outgear lower level content by 40 ilvls and still do the same damage as someone with 40 ilvl gear below you. No problem right?

    /sarcasm
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    Shinhye Heartstrings
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    Last week back when my raid was practicing T8, we pug a bard who wear Animus and 4 high allagan pieces.
    We assigned him only HM+BJ and one tower. Global dps was a bit slow as we barely kill it when Avatar cast Atomic Ray at 60% cast bar (1 sec)
    What we saw from parser is other dps dealt 300+ dps but him only did 230 dps.
    Without parser, who think he was holding our global dps back considering to his gear ?
    Additionally, with parser, we know he used Straight Shot as main skill, didn't keep DoTs uptime, barely used Blunt Arrow and Flame Arrow.

    We are not telling him that he was under performing since we just wanted to learn mechanic but fortunately we made it.
    This week, he is asking to pick him up again for T8. Instead of deny him, we will give him some friendly advise to make our task easier.

    TL;DR : Better gear doesn't mean better dps, parser can tell. And we can use parser to improve community.
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    Danorille Pandemonium
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    Quote Originally Posted by tOnni3 View Post
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    was he doing ballad, foe or paeon? coz that'll reduce a brd's overall dps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dano View Post
    was he doing ballad, foe or paeon? coz that'll reduce a brd's overall dps.
    He was singing ballad 1 time during mid-wave as far as I noticed.
    And I think no TP song as melee dps didn't request for it.

    Seriously TP,MP song alone won't hurt dps this much, and obviously I found the reason by parser as mentioned
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    Quote Originally Posted by tOnni3 View Post
    He was singing ballad 1 time during mid-wave as far as I noticed.
    And I think no TP song as melee dps didn't request for it.

    Seriously TP,MP song alone won't hurt dps this much, and obviously I found the reason by parser as mentioned
    Yeah, you're correct. My i96 Bard with Allagan Composite Bow (yes I know, Leviathan hates me) does ~290-320 DPS using Foe => Paeon => Foe in the fight. Should never be that low unless you're dying a lot (which is still a sign of a bad DPS in most cases).
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    There's already discrimination in FFXIV in the PF. Add a dps meter and it's Wow all over again.

    Right now in FFXIV you have "You die we kick!" in PF.....I see also, "HAven't watched video, we'll kick!" too.

    So many boorish posts it's brutal, add a dps meter to the game and well, say goodbye to any remaining nice people in the game we just love to play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karnyboy View Post
    There's already discrimination in FFXIV in the PF. Add a dps meter and it's Wow all over again.

    Right now in FFXIV you have "You die we kick!" in PF.....I see also, "HAven't watched video, we'll kick!" too.

    So many boorish posts it's brutal, add a dps meter to the game and well, say goodbye to any remaining nice people in the game we just love to play.
    What's wrong with discrimination? Why are people not allowed to play with who they choose to?

    Nobody "nice" uses a DPS meter? Go and spend your entire free game-time making learning parties which accept anyone, and consequently spend most of your time wiping. If not, you are a toxic player... obviously.
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