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    Quote Originally Posted by ErnestoGiovanni View Post
    They are gonna Nerf flare so the can boost fire III, keeping the balance.
    Then I sincerely hope they nerf Holy....a LOT.
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    No reason to Nerf Flare, they just need to give us something for movement. I mean even just by turning around (with target locked as well) spell casting gets cancelled.
    I for one think our solo target damage is fair enough as is, i mean really not too far away from other classes. But we for sure no questions need a buff of sorts
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    Spiteful much?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rosy View Post
    Then I sincerely hope they nerf Holy....a LOT.
    It has been nerfed, -50(40 or 30 or something) potency. Right now to use it in certain dungeons takes some serious gear or skill power on Tank and Healer parts so if you can use Holy you've earned it also WHM's have I think capped at 380 accuracy now? I doubt future raids will allow them to Holy spam efficiently for the MP.

    When I BLM or BRD for Speed runs, I see WHM's Holy and tanks drop with a resonating "thud," it's not for everyone.

    But I see the route people are going, and they say balance, if BLM= AOE> single target well how do we balance it? Nerf their AOE capabilities and increase single target abilities, its the most obvious solution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErnestoGiovanni View Post
    It has been nerfed, -50(40 or 30 or something) potency. Right now to use it in certain dungeons takes some serious gear or skill power on Tank and Healer parts so if you can use Holy you've earned it also WHM's have I think capped at 380 accuracy now? I doubt future raids will allow them to Holy spam efficiently for the MP.

    When I BLM or BRD for Speed runs, I see WHM's Holy and tanks drop with a resonating "thud," it's not for everyone.

    But I see the route people are going, and they say balance, if BLM= AOE> single target well how do we balance it? Nerf their AOE capabilities and increase single target abilities, its the most obvious solution.
    If you took along a decent 2nd WHM just to AoE for a speed run, they would do more damage than most BLM's and geting close to the damage of a decent BLM even.

    So yes, if Flare is nerfed, Holy should be too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scarebearz View Post
    If you took along a decent 2nd WHM just to AoE for a speed run, they would do more damage than most BLM's and geting close to the damage of a decent BLM even.

    So yes, if Flare is nerfed, Holy should be too.
    Hmm, if this is the case I find something wrong with "most" BLM's. I don't really believe it, but someone give me numbers proving me wrong, and I won't deny it. If Holy is so powerful, I don't understand why Pt's aren't just 1 tank 3 whm's. My opinion is based on my exp with Speed run parties, BLM's Fire 3 fire 2 until 1st flare blows away the dmg I can do with a full mp bar worth of holy. Let alone the triple flares. I just don't see it, However I was stating the obvious in my first post because everyone harps on their AOE DMG, and SE is saying balance balance balance... all that everyone is basically arguing for is a nerf to the BLM AOE dmg and a buff to single target.

    However we won't know until its revealed :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErnestoGiovanni View Post
    Hmm, if this is the case I find something wrong with "most" BLM's. I don't really believe it, but someone give me numbers proving me wrong, and I won't deny it.
    Most BLM's in DF/PF do bad damage, regardless of their gears. (Same is true for WHM's, loads don't even use Holy for the AoE pulls)

    Quote Originally Posted by ErnestoGiovanni View Post
    If Holy is so powerful, I don't understand why Pt's aren't just 1 tank 3 whm's.
    Because their single target damage is low (as it should be) and the bosses would take a lot longer. We are talking about their AOE.

    Quote Originally Posted by ErnestoGiovanni View Post
    all that everyone is basically arguing for is a nerf to the BLM AOE dmg and a buff to single target.
    A nerf to our AoE damage would be a nerf to our single target damage, as we use Flare along in single target fights.

    I want a small increase to our single target spells, to put us as a more acceptable dps class to take for coil2.

    Boost other dps AoE if they want to (mostly talking about monk), but I don't think any class should be nerfed.
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