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  1. #61
    Player TeganLaron's Avatar
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    Tegan Laron
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    I think I better start whining that the classes I play all need buffs, as apparently they give in to that. Also I want all stats on all my gear, and to never ever have to move in a fight. In fact, just let the fanfare play the second I enter the instance.
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  2. #62
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    Lucke Arrayo
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    Hyperion
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Raenryong View Post
    MNK has AoE, average MNK is just not good enough to use it properly.

    Trash is irrelevant. Boss performance is what is important and what should be balanced around, and BLM currently suffers from performance issues in a lot of top-end fights.
    MNK has one ability. If you give a BLM and MNK each a group of 5 identical mobs, BLM will kill his/her group WAAAAAAAY before MNK is even close to killing his/her group. MNK mayy have one AoE ability, put BLM AoEs totally wipe the floor with MNK. Most people don't think "Gee, better get a MNK for their AoEs!"

    Trash is irrelevant you say? That's strange, there are a bunch of threads about speedrunning. Speedrunning is a thing because BLM (and DRG to a lesser extent) kill a bazillion mobs at a time. If trash is irrelevant like you say, there would be no speedrun threads.
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  3. #63
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    Altimis Farron
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    Aegis
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Talking about "They gonna looking into others jobs and adjust as well"

    SMN here only need 1 thing, I wouldn't ask like "Hey please increase Pet dmg bullcrap or Hey please make Enkindle Potency increase to 1000 please or Hey please make ....... stronger bla bla bla"

    Please give SMN MP buffs to 4000 and everything will be solved

    MP 3000 is way too low compared to others caster jobs (Healer included)

    Another 1000 MP is not gonna make SMN OP
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  4. #64
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    Kittitachi Uchiha
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    I play a BLM I main BLM. I understand where the buff is coming from but other then fire starter being fixed I don't honestly thing BLM needs to be buffed. I am 9/10 the highest DPS in the party. Even in movement heavy fights ie Levi, Titan, Twin... I see most BLM's who don't play the job to the full potential of the class. Such as stoping their spells to use a firestarter, not using transpose or scathe when moving, little things like that. Is it just me that's doing this good? Or do other good BLM's honestly think we need a buff?
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  5. #65
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    Captnyan Meowpants
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    Quote Originally Posted by jars View Post
    not just brayflox, coil too.
    I guess those people are stupid? Players do bads thing enough to support any position if you see then as a authority on class balance (they're not)
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  6. #66
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    Serefina Solfyre
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Lucke View Post
    MNK has one ability. If you give a BLM and MNK each a group of 5 identical mobs, BLM will kill his/her group WAAAAAAAY before MNK is even close to killing his/her group. MNK mayy have one AoE ability, put BLM AoEs totally wipe the floor with MNK. Most people don't think "Gee, better get a MNK for their AoEs!"

    Trash is irrelevant you say? That's strange, there are a bunch of threads about speedrunning. Speedrunning is a thing because BLM (and DRG to a lesser extent) kill a bazillion mobs at a time. If trash is irrelevant like you say, there would be no speedrun threads.
    Three abilities. And yeah, BLM is a lot better at AoE, but MNK is serviceable. Trash is irrelevant to balance, because you shouldn't balance a game around burning a hard mode dungeon.

    @Kittitacho: what DPS do you typically pull on Titan EX (no Echo) in a successful run, and on Twintania (no Echo)?
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  7. #67
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    Luna Nattvind
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    Omega
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Daniolaut View Post
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post2133250

    BLM should not have good single target damage. Its already far outshining all jobs in AoE damage. Thats what BLM is for... AoE.
    Sadly in this game for serious relevant content: Single target DPS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Standing still doing nothing>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>AoEDPS

    It is indeed a fair tradeoff as it stands now, isn't it? Being good for doing outleveled content 5 min faster but in turn not being viable in any actually progressing content and forever locked at iLvl 100.
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  8. #68
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    I don't use a parse but a can't honestly answer. But last time I checked it was like 355-360 ish
    But that was before I got any sold gear so I don't know what it is now
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  9. #69
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    Luna Nattvind
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kittitacho View Post
    I play a BLM I main BLM. I understand where the buff is coming from but other then fire starter being fixed I don't honestly thing BLM needs to be buffed. I am 9/10 the highest DPS in the party. Even in movement heavy fights ie Levi, Titan, Twin... I see most BLM's who don't play the job to the full potential of the class. Such as stoping their spells to use a firestarter, not using transpose or scathe when moving, little things like that. Is it just me that's doing this good? Or do other good BLM's honestly think we need a buff?
    I agree with Firestarter fix being only big need BLMs need. Maybe making it able to stack to 2 or 3 to make us not lose around 25% of our procs? And maybe even being able to save them for when we need to move :P
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  10. #70
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    Zyxt Fair
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    Tonberry
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Its painfully obvious who hasn't done t8 and 9 in this thread.
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    Last edited by OPneedNerfs; 05-26-2014 at 09:29 AM.

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