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    Waliel Hla
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seiryuukishi View Post
    I am certain triple even quad flares were never intended but hey someone figured out how to squeeze out every last ounce of dps a Black Mage could muster from the skill.
    4x Flare is still doable. All their "fix" did was to make BLM ST rotation more awkward, and a slight nerf to DPS from that awkwardness.

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    e: I think it's actually five Flares that you can do in a row, now that I think about it...
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    Last edited by Waliel; 05-26-2014 at 10:37 PM.

    Yoshi-P is doing his best and is patching Endwalker. Please wait warmly until it is ready.

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    Evercy Warclan
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    Quote Originally Posted by wicked-one View Post
    Jeah I know how that mechanic works, but tell me, how do i get it "on times from the server ticks" ;-)

    working random or feeling random --- not much of a difference in results...

    /PS: somehow, everybody in this forum is taking everything right down to the last detail.
    Honestly, the only way is to count for yourself/ set up a timer to start when you see a DoT tick or your MP goes up, or when somebody makes a counter add on when the API is released (so it reads the exact serverside ticks right down to the millisecond)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naelle View Post
    Discussion forums are for discussion not personal attacks. Just because you don't agree/like what he's saying doesn't mean you have to try to belittle him for not clearing a specific content. Contrary to popular belief there are other things in this game past coil. To save you time going and checking me for your retort; I haven't even bothered to try turn 6 yet.
    They're saying this because they haven't attempted the biggest fights which the buff is necessary for
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    Quote Originally Posted by NintenPyjak64 View Post
    They're saying this because they haven't attempted the biggest fights which the buff is necessary for
    "They" meaning the OP. I hate not being able to edit from mobile
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    Casca Wolftamer
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    I personnaly think that blm dmg is fine as it is, however the hardest fights on this game dont use any of the blm power. Give blm 5-6 target like in turn 4 and we'll see who's on top of dps chart.

    I hate when game designer balance a job instead of balancing the way we are fighting boss. All that it means is that we'll get more evade aoe/mechanism based fight instead of more variety.

    I wish we had more wave of mobs to kill kind of fight rather than a dungeon where you enter and where the first part can be done with your controller/keyboard/mouse fit somewhere it shouldnt be and a boss at the end.
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    Last edited by Kimky; 05-27-2014 at 01:42 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimky View Post
    All that it means is that we'll get more evade aoe/mechanism based fight instead of more variety.
    more mechanics and different mechanics is variety, all it takes it a skill set to manage it, what your after is either something thats standstill which are the easiest type of encounters you can have where you do nothing but stand still and nuke which ANYONE can do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raelgun View Post
    more mechanics and different mechanics is variety, all it takes it a skill set to manage it, what your after is either something thats standstill which are the easiest type of encounters you can have where you do nothing but stand still and nuke which ANYONE can do.
    Wait what ? where did I said that I wanted a fight were I didnt want to move and nuke stuff ? I'm just saying that blm if SE were giving fight were you had to fight more target and aoe more blm would shine more. I took t4 as an example because there's wave of 5-6 mobs, not because I wasnt moving. Dunno where you got that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimky View Post
    Wait what ? where did I said that I wanted a fight were I didnt want to move and nuke stuff ? I'm just saying that blm if SE were giving fight were you had to fight more target and aoe more blm would shine more. I took t4 as an example because there's wave of 5-6 mobs, not because I wasnt moving. Dunno where you got that.
    honestly couldnt care which class can do more aoe or not, single target is the most important since dps checks is a way of requirement for you to know more about your class to get the most out of it, not to mention you edited your post after my reply.

    AOE should never be a large part of a fight at end game, should be a minor element, nothing like T4 should occur to that extent really, some stuff spawning is fine, just nothing to that amount, but this is still boss mechanics (granted T4 had no actual boss)
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    Last edited by raelgun; 05-27-2014 at 03:31 AM.

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    If there are any classes that need buffs it's BRD and DRG.

    BRD is multi-purpose but man, it is still a dps class, it deserves to be able to do at least decent damage.

    And DRGs have an absurdly long full rotation which is most fights you'll never get to do entirely. The fact that playing a perfect DRG means you can 'remain' almost competitive with SMN, MNK, and BLM is crazy. No other class has to micromanage that much other than healers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaFhey View Post
    If there are any classes that need buffs it's BRD and DRG.

    BRD is multi-purpose but man, it is still a dps class, it deserves to be able to do at least decent damage.

    And DRGs have an absurdly long full rotation which is most fights you'll never get to do entirely. The fact that playing a perfect DRG means you can 'remain' almost competitive with SMN, MNK, and BLM is crazy. No other class has to micromanage that much other than healers.
    Its what I actually love about my dragoon. Can be proud of teh deeps because its very rewarding / satisfying to play one at its maximum potential, yet im still learnin how to do things !

    There are also plenty of things that a skilled DRG, MNK or SMN can do to put out exceptional damage in Coil 2
    Honestly bring the exceptionnal parses. There's little to none ways to do it and you ll never be able to catch up a summoner in any turn unless you re in turn 8 as a dragoon ... then again a monk will absolutely destroy you, so will do some of these crazy summoners out there.

    Not gonna complain about the dps of the class because its pretty high and it burst hard and its the whole purpose of it, but exceptionnal damage ? it can be really good, thats true. But far to be exceptionnal
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    Last edited by Sygmaelle; 05-28-2014 at 12:35 AM.

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