Tanks that don't tank

[Ecosmith]

Or you could give them some friendly advicerather than leave them continuing in ignorance.

[Gnova]

Or you could give them some friendly advicerather than leave them continuing in ignorance.

The problem is that people DO offer them friendly advise but even basic advise like "spam flash two or three times at the beginning of a fight" is completely ignored. I cast one cure and the adds are stuck to me for the remainder of the fight.

It is really frustrating for the healer to be dealing with adds the entire fight while the gladiator's MP bar is sitting t 100% or OP is not used for the entire fight.
In the "learning dungeons" it doesn't bother me when I have to deal with some agro problems as long as I feel the tank is at least trying.

[Floppytop]

The problem is that people DO offer them friendly advise but even basic advise like "spam flash two or three times at the beginning of a fight" is completely ignored. I cast one cure and the adds are stuck to me for the remainder of the fight.

It is really frustrating for the healer to be dealing with adds the entire fight while the gladiator's MP bar is sitting t 100% or OP is not used for the entire fight.
In the "learning dungeons" it doesn't bother me when I have to deal with some agro problems as long as I feel the tank is at least trying.

I agree with this completly if you are new and are struggling then thats ok take advice and try and do better. It is the ones that ignore everything anyone say just go into a pack and only hit the mob the whole time with out a care in the world that are a pain.

I recently started tanking and I am finding it hard but I always try and hold hate with everthing even if the dps are being a pain

[Garlyle]

but I always try and hold hate with everthing even if the dps are being a pain

Good!

That aside though, actually, the aggro mechanics are really important to success in dungeons, but they're never ever explained in-game. For some players, especially those familiar with MMOs, enmity is a 'duh'. For many players though, there's just this off "increases enmity" on some tank moves, and that's about it for in-game mentions and explanations.

There is a lot more the game could do to teach key mechanics like that.

[Nomad-phx]

i understood plenty. Imo a small price to pay to get other classes from ilvl boosting with unproductive gear. in terms of endgame content where off tanks arent getting hit theres not much of that. titan, ifrit, leviathan extreme as well as rafflesia all have both tanks taking damage though tank swaps or just regular mechanics. the off tank in my static does that and i constantly have to hold back to not strip hate on tank swap scenarios because hes too busy trying to be a high hp dps instead of tanking like he should be.

[KfLeX]

They should and a gear check

[rahvinus]

Maybe because outside of the dungeons there is generally ZERO point in using the tanking abilities such as Flash or keeping aggro, so of course there's a transition. Unlike DPS, the tank class's job and playstyle completely changes upon entering group content.

Now that being said, if that same tank is still making stupid mistakes after getting a few dungeons under his belt, then he's just a moron.

[Woggers]

You are questioning the skill of NEW tanks at LOW LEVEL dungeons....
So instead of helping them out and give friendly advice to help them you rage quit? Awesome class right there.

And about your warning message? There's already a huge shortage of tanks, so let's discourage hopeful future tanks even more by saying "If you don't do your job perfectly everyone will hate you, kill yourself naow noob!"

[Gnova]

You are questioning the skill of NEW tanks at LOW LEVEL dungeons....
So instead of helping them out and give friendly advice to help them you rage quit? Awesome class right there.

And about your warning message? There's already a huge shortage of tanks, so let's discourage hopeful future tanks even more by saying "If you don't do your job perfectly everyone will hate you, kill yourself naow noob!"

Does anyone ever actually read posts before they respond?
I've said very clearly that I offer friendly advise and try to help.
But there are times where the advise is completely ignored.

At that time the option is either to start typing in caps and being a little rude to get the point across or to leave the dungeon. I play games for fun not to be a jerk to to other players so I choose to leave.

I'm also very forgiving of tanks that aren't all that great at their roles but I think they are trying.
Whenever someone in a group makes a snide comment about their gear I'm the first to say that they can worry about gear at level 50.

[SeraviEdalborez]

Well aren't we uppity.

^ Is this to the OP or your latest post? I can't tell, I didn't use the quote function.