Odin Spawn Timer

[TheRogueX]

im not sure how either of them need "fixing". both have ways to know they are there. behemoth has his blizzard and odin has his mist. other than that, you have the massive amount of pf groups and shouts that will start filling the chat log.

Both of which require you to be on the game precisely when they occur, without knowing in any way, shape, or form when they will occur.. just that it will happen sometime between 24-72 hours after the last time it was killed. I'm sorry, but that's a 48 hour window, and I don't know about you, but I can't just sit around, awake, on the game, for 48 straight hours waiting for the boss to spawn.

not paying attention to those things seems like a personal problem that could be fixed a lot faster than doing anything to these bosses.

Err, it's sorta hard to pay attention to all of that if you aren't in game, isn't it? Unless you mean it's a personal problem that I don't play 24/7, or something.

If Odin is up, I still go for the fight. I have more mantles than I need.

See? Why can't they just make the Mantle a tradeable object, and have some other Odin drop untradeable for the furniture? Same for Behemoth, of course.

[Kaze3434]

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true, but seeing as how they both seem to spawn during high time on the servers, its not hard to be on when they spawn, baring working during said high time. not like anything from them is useful.

[Barboron]

See? Why can't they just make the Mantle a tradeable object, and have some other Odin drop untradeable for the furniture? Same for Behemoth, of course.

I think making them tradeable would destroy what little worth it has. Even though the body can't be glamoured, if I ever do wear it, I like to know that I earned it. Look out for a LS on your server or even make one! Here's a link to a forum post for the LS I made. Sure there are no responses but having that thread there and posting it on reddit caused it to take off very quickly. My LS consisted mainly of FC members first just to get a good foundation. Check that post I made and you can see the spreadsheet also, do something like that and you could hopefully get a shit load of dedicated people. More people means more eyes to watch. And because the LS is for Odin and Behemoth, it's common courtesy for people to invite others from the LS as we share a common interest.

[TheRogueX]

I'm actually in a LS that watches for the spawns, but that doesn't help me if one of them spawns while I'm offline. The problem isn't related to it spawning when I'm on the game, it's the fact that the spawns are so incredibly unpredictable that I haven't been able to be on at the same time as the spawn. I don't even really care if the spawn isn't on a set timer, so long as once the spawn time is set after one of them is killed, there's a way to know approximately when it will spawn again, give or take 1.5-2 hours or so.

They could even gate this information easily, by making some sort of quest you had to do that didn't even open up until x amount of hours after the last time it spawned and died. Complete the quest, you somehow "predict" the next time their aetheric energies will converge, giving you a date and maybe like a 2-4 hour time window when the spawn will occur.

[AliceVirgin]

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Can you QQ anymore? I work 60 hours a week I travel a lot for work and you cant play this game with Hotel Wifi so this game is weekend orny. Even on the weekends my Spouse and my Friends come first you know that silly thing where you interact with people in RL and spots also come before the game... Yet I have seen people shout for Odin/Behemoth plenty of times. I would really love to see how you can say you need to play 24/7. Its more like you just want to QQ because you would rather spend your time myth farming when they spawn and don't leave your "leet group" to do other stuff.... Or you don't ever check your LS/FC chats when in said instances because you know your so close to killing Ifrit HM... please quit QQing

[DoubleT]

if you are in a odin/behe ls then you are doing all u can do. just try to take solace in the fact that these 2 fates are just for fun, an your game isnt going to break if you dont get all of your mantles/horns this week, there is always next time

[Tetsaru]

They could just do it how GW2 does it:

- Have world bosses spawn once approximately every 2 or 3 hours, so that people have a decent chance to encounter them regardless of when they can play. Make it predictable enough so that timers such as these can be made for each server.

- Players can participate as many times as they want, but can only receive the rewards (i.e., Odin's Mantles, Behemoth Horns, etc.) once per day to prevent them from being too common. Players will then be more motivated to try and get gold so that they earn more horns/mantles for that day.

Other things they could do:

- Bronze rating should be 1 item; silver could be 3; gold can remain 5. It's frustrating to show up late to these events and end up not getting anything even though you put in a decent amount of DPS, healing, etc. This way, in conjunction with the "one reward per day," would reward doing a good job, while also rewarding general participation.

- Release a multi-part version of the Herklaedi armor (body, arms, legs, and feet pieces) for glamour purposes, or other new items so that players still have a motivation to participate in these events.

- Make the items also tradeable for things such as tomestones or GC seals, in case you have all the rewards already or simply aren't interested in them.

- Introduce new world bosses, and/or have other "lesser" world bosses (Lazy Lawrence, Gorgimera, Cancer, etc.) drop token items instead of minions. Have new rewards you can get from trading in items dropped from their respective bosses (minions could be one of these).

- If you REALLY want to encourage participation, have certain new gear drop from these bosses (such as ilvl110 Odin armor), but have the drop rate extremely low, sorta like how Atmas are now. Trade-in rewards could also be included so that you don't have to spend your tokens if you're lucky.

[Barboron]

gold can remain 3.

Gold actually gives you 5 if you finish the FATE, 1 if the FATE is failed. Personally, I think it's fine the way it is.

[Tetsaru]

Gold actually gives you 5 if you finish the FATE, 1 if the FATE is failed. Personally, I think it's fine the way it is.

Whoops, my bad lol, I'll fix that. I was more concerned with being able to get at least 1 from actually doing the FATE. I remember before they patched it, it was difficult to even get silver, so a lot of people ended up getting nothing despite actively participating in it.

[Malamasala]

Still have only seen Odin twice and never Behemoth as a casual player who enjoys vanity. So to me putting vanity items on such a thing is just incredibly crazy.

Only real solution is to make everyone participating get the items, and allow them to be sold. That way people will participate to make money, and those who miss it can buy items to get their vanity stuff.

The alternative with popping them every 3 hours is good in theory, but people would get what they wanted and stop doing it and then you have to beat Odin and Behemoth with groups the size of 3-12. Which means nerfing the fates so they can be done solo.