Community divide in Legacy servers

[Corfish]

Hrms.. first you cut off most of quote. Then you say that 90% of all NA players are scum (sure you wouldn't include yourself in that...)
Please come to a JP server and experience the situation before making this judgement. Otherwise, kindly make another thread where you tell all English players how 90% of us are (insert 4 letter word here.)

Seriously, I meet far more good players than bad, good players simply don't stand out. Bad players are the outliers who ruin runs, so you notice them. Good players are typical, so you never notice them. Unfortunately, FFXIV is the kind of game where one bad player can ruin a whole run depending on their role, so one bad player makes it seem like "OMG THIS PARTY SUX!"

I can agree with her about the English-Community towards the French community though, I've seen that attitude on this forum towards them.

[Melithea]

Please come to a JP server and experience the situation before making this judgement.

I partied with Japanese players semi-regularly in FFXI. But then I can actually read a bit of Japanese and I did it with the understanding that I was their last resort.

Otherwise, kindly make another thread where you tell all English players how 90% of us are (insert 4 letter word here.)

Who exactly would that be for? I offer constructive criticism all the time in personal settings where I think it will help. Mostly it's a problem with trolls and the special snowflakes who still haven't learned that there's no "I" in "party". I'm not afraid to call that what it is, and yes it is a real problem.

[Hoshijiro]

From my own experience,if u can speak japanese to a certain degree,and looking for a mixed jp+english environment or just a server with better latency,i would highly recommend transferring to tonberry. Compared to what i've heard about masamune,the jp community on tonberry tend to be much more open minded.

Yes,i did come across one or two jerks as group leaders who kicked "gaijin"s regardless of the fact that they could speak decent japanese;but most of the groups will accept english players as long as they can at least understand enough japanese to communicate,or even someone there to translate for them.

Apart from overcoming the language barrier,the thing is that u should prepare yourself before joining jp pugs if possible,since they have their own ways to deal with fights(i.e. garuda ex,turn 8) There r lots of blogs giving out strats about fights,and the most stable and efficient ones will become their orthodox methods within a month or so,even pugs can consistently down fights up to turn8 on tonberry now.

Personally I downed turn 8 and headed into turn 9 with a jp+eng mixed static early on after 2.2 launch on another account,although my schedule changed dramatically afterwards,forcing me to left that group,i can still down turn 8 with pugs every week on both accounts while squeezing some time to practice turn 9 a bit.

I cant say much about english groups on tonberry since i rarely join those,but there r also many turn 8 and beyond pugs hanging round in PF these days.

[BobbinT]

lol

rather than tonberry, I still want to move back to old sargatanas. Just need SE to fix that damn latency.

Seriously, I have almost zero knowledge of jp language. It's not something ppl can learn instantly.

[ispano]

lol

rather than tonberry, I still want to move back to old sargatanas. Just need SE to fix that damn latency.

Seriously, I have almost zero knowledge of jp language. It's not something ppl can learn instantly.

They can't fix distance.

[Mysha]

I would like to say this, one of the deciding factors in my refusal to jump ship as it were, is that my FC has one of the first Large houses on this server in the goblet (ward 1) we worked our butts off to earn that and it has sentimental value to me, the other thing is that combined total is around 10 active players from my fc and close LS group who have been discussing moving, to move this many players @ 18usd each is expencive, unless one of you previous posters saying 18usd isnt much want to donate for such a large group?

im trying a solution that was sent to me via /tell in game, opening a pf and asking them to join me instead, we will see how this goes ill try it for a few weeks

one of the other perks that i should mention to staying on masamune, 0 gold sellers, i havent gotten a /tell from a gold seller since 3 weeks after launch, and this server is far cheaper (friend claimed after checking tonberry/leviathan/few NA) then any alternatives we have checked.

[Alcifer]

We packed up and moved our FC of about a dozen people at once, said our goodbyes to our friends in the LS and then had another FC of about the same we were friends with moved over a few days later. You might think it's a bit expensive, but a lot of people don't seem to think so. It's also far easier then trying to get SE to force one group to party with another. Sadly, the odds of that happening are slim. It does suck about your house though.

The lack of gil spammers is pretty common on most JP servers, it's exactly the same on Tonberry. Some things are cheaper then back on Masamune, some are more expensive. It's pretty well amounts to about the same.

[Mikita]

im trying a solution that was sent to me via /tell in game, opening a pf and asking them to join me instead, we will see how this goes ill try it for a few weeks

That's a good idea. Good luck!

At least with PF and playing with people on your own server, you can start to build a reputation for being someone who is good to play with regardless of language.

Be courteous and friendly, and use the auto-translate. Even throw in an emote like /bow at the beginning and end of a run?

Not everyone will respond favorably, but hopefully you can start to build a circle of friends and let it grow from there. ^^

[BobbinT]

They can't fix distance.

funny... I'm pretty sure WoW latency solution have been mentioned quite alot. Yoshi himself even took WoW as his inspiration.
And yeah, I know it doesn't exactly fix distance, but I remember it manages to fix in a certain way, that lag difference was very minimize.

[Recaldy]

Legacy? Not on Balmung.

(Yes I know why.)