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  1. #11
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    Sadana's Avatar
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    Valia Rosa
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 71
    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    Actually, many NA/EU people asked for servers over not in Japan, while we were still playing 1.0.
    Yes, but I am speaking of the change to data centers. Before, the DF pulled from wherever. Anyone remember which month they did this? Oct? Nov? I forget... ^^;
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  2. #12
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    Melfina Amastacia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sadana View Post
    Yes, but I am speaking of the change to data centers. Before, the DF pulled from wherever.
    No, JP and NA/EU were still split. The change just broke each of the two into smaller sets. NA/EU servers never DF'd with JP servers.
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  3. #13
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    Ukaei Ukaei
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    Leviathan
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    You have much more pressing matters to tend to if you can't afford a mere $18.00.

    Just ask Mom and Dad for a dollar a day, or get a job.. saving up $18.00 is very, very possible.
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  4. #14
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    Kytheren Kenni
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    Seraph
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    Red Mage Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by Gextiv View Post
    You have much more pressing matters to tend to if you can't afford a mere $18.00.

    Just ask Mom and Dad for a dollar a day, or get a job.. saving up $18.00 is very, very possible.
    Some people have a budget.
    Some people don't see spending $18 on this as a reasonable fit into their budget.
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  5. #15
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    Sigmund Felsword
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    Save 1.00 a day.
    In 18 days you can server transfer.
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  6. #16
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    BobbinT's Avatar
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    Bobbin Threadbare
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    Masamune
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    There's 1 thing OP forgot or even never experience this problem: Latency!

    Yes, back on Sargatanas, this posed as very... very problematic situation. You "have" to per-emptive incoming attacks. That's Titan for ya. You even need to go extra mile by paying for tunneling service, which IMO are not great solution since we have to fork extra cash.
    But the community feels great. So easy to converse and know with many ppl with from different countries.

    And yes, when I moved to Masamune, it was latency heaven. 1st time I felt latency below 100 ms. But man... the server feels like ghost town for English community. You either have to be JP literate, or feel somehow alienated.

    So... here's the dilemma: Want broader & reachable community, or movement freedom? Is it impossible to have both, except maybe to live closer to NA data center to have both?

    And since SE lifted the ban so that legacies can transfer to non legacy servers, this problem becomes more and more worse. Seems like slowly english speaker at JP servers are being herded to the obvious choice: Tonberry. But is that really a solution? And just forget things ppl have been building on their old servers?

    PPl already making huge list of complaint regarding latency, and frankly, we really have ran out of patience. I don't even know if SE care anymore.

    I love FF series since long time ago, but this dilemma makes me think to forget enjoying MMO.
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    Last edited by BobbinT; 05-24-2014 at 11:39 PM.

  7. #17
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    Ineb Yakiria
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    Diabolos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Issac View Post
    Some people have a budget.
    Some people don't see spending $18 on this as a reasonable fit into their budget.
    I think server transfers are a bit over the top, 18$ for just switching over some data. But if someone is on so much of a budget where 18 is a bit much they should probably rethink even playing this game since it has a monthly fee.

  8. #18
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    Bigpurpleharness's Avatar
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    Alaik Ropaire
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Mysha View Post
    I want to bring to your attention the community divide that is present in most legacy servers, mainly split between English speaking players and Japanese speaking players, I want to know if this is as bad in other legacy servers as it is in mine

    Below i organized my thoughts or responses to posters in this thread based on subject

    (please note from here on i can only provide comments and photos [by request] from my own experience from masamune)

    On Masamune i would hazard a estimate ratio of 30:70 En/Jp speaking players, and for some reason the japanese players have no love at all for any English players, while this wasnt such a bad thing before 2.2 its becoming increasingly worse as time/content comes out
    Excalibur's Few JP players aren't xenophobic at all, and it's pretty active. I like it, my only complaint is a lack of FC that run a 24/48 schedule for medics. That's every server it seems though.
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  9. #19
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    Luna Nattvind
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    Omega
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    If you are on a JP server you can expect that to happen. People will always prefer playing with people they can understand.
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  10. #20
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    Kytheren Kenni
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    Seraph
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airikay View Post
    I think server transfers are a bit over the top, 18$ for just switching over some data. But if someone is on so much of a budget where 18 is a bit much they should probably rethink even playing this game since it has a monthly fee.
    Not necessarily. Remember that the consumer ultimately dictates the value of things. You vote with your wallet. When you are on a budget and say, you have $100 dollars free each month after rent, bills, and food; Would you rather spend $18 on a transfer or say screw that and save it all? Or option C, get yourself something nice that costs $85? You do work hard, after all.

    If someone ultimately quits the game because they don't want to drop nearly $20 on roughly 15-45 seconds of server load and bandwidth for the script to move your bits over, how much more does SE stand to lose? It's an interesting question I think.
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    Last edited by Issac; 05-25-2014 at 02:35 AM.

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