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    Player
    Mysha's Avatar
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    Mysha Tyrneadlues
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    Community divide in Legacy servers

    I want to bring to your attention the community divide that is present in most legacy servers, mainly split between English speaking players and Japanese speaking players, I want to know if this is as bad in other legacy servers as it is in mine

    Below i organized my thoughts or responses to posters in this thread based on subject

    (please note from here on i can only provide comments and photos [by request] from my own experience from masamune)

    On Masamune i would hazard a estimate ratio of 30:70 En/Jp speaking players, and for some reason the japanese players have no love at all for any English players, while this wasnt such a bad thing before 2.2 its becoming increasingly worse as time/content comes out
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    Mysha Tyrneadlues
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    Party Finder
    Log into Masamune during Prime hours and you will find roughly 30 parties in the PF looking for members.
    "But Mysha thats a great thing! your server is alive and running content"
    Only if your client is in Japanese or your skills at typing in Japanese appear to be native, 70% of the parties in PF have "JP Only" in their comment section, yes even for brayflox speed runs, if you join one, god forbid you do, and the leader searches your information you will either get an instant kick (due to Client language being E ) or later in the run itself you will be booted for harassment/afk

    Duty Finder
    Duty finder is basically the same as PF, just the other day i tried to help a friend do levi extreme only to get booted from the group because i said the word "黒魔道士"[BlackMage] (Jp players shorten it to the word "黒", Fail on my part)
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    Mysha Tyrneadlues
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    Kick System
    Wasn't there suppose to be code in place to prevent the abuse of the kick system? Or does the code not think there's something wrong when its the same player being kicked for different reasons

    Free Company/Linkshells

    Sadly FC and LS fall under the standard English problem that English players always do to themselves, "Full Static" or "Its a waste of our time to gear another player as an alternative" or "We don't want to teach you"

    Server Transfer
    Why not you ask? 18USD is my answer, that's far to much, for me and a few friends

    I'm looking for suggestions on how to improve this situation, or even someone who is native Japanese to explain the stigma that afflicts the general population (I understand that the Japanese people have xenophobia, however is it really this bad?)

    TL/DR Masamune is a hostile environment for EN speakers, Looking for suggestions on fixing this problem, or those who have similar issues in other legacy servers

    (First post said there was a limit of 1k characters, wasn't aware i could bypass limit by editing said post)
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    Last edited by Mysha; 05-24-2014 at 10:06 PM.

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    Player Tatsuo's Avatar
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    Tatsuo Kimura
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysha View Post
    Looking for suggestions on fixing this problem
    Hello Gaijin-san,

    the solution is simple: Move to another server.

    Regards,
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    Tatalanu Bobolanu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysha View Post
    Kick System
    Wasn't there suppose to be code in place to prevent the abuse of the kick system? Or does the code not think there's something wrong when its the same player being kicked for different reasons
    There never was any code to prevent abuse. You are supposed to report the offending players if they abuse vote kick. And yes something should happen. The GMs take that stuff very seriously.

    I think this is more of a problem with JP servers in general rather than legacy servers. We don't have this issue on sarg which is probably because its an NA server.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tatsuo View Post
    Hello Gaijin-san,
    the solution is simple: Move to another server.
    As you no doubt read, not everybody is willing to fork out more than a full month's subscription fee for something like a server transfer.
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    Free Company: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/67117-Lewd-Whispers-International-FC-LS-We-re-waiting...-under-your-bed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tatsuo View Post
    Hello Gaijin-san,

    the solution is simple: Move to another server.

    Regards,
    You know that word can be use as an insult? :I

    Also, yeah judging by your post and Zylo's.
    Think you need to go ahead, talk with your friends and try to save up.
    I agree, nearly $20 is kinda steep, but it'll be a breath of fresh air to find a new
    FC and server that's much nicer than the hell hole you seem to be in. x:
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    Bobbin Threadbare
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luxx View Post
    Also, yeah judging by your post and Zylo's.
    Think you need to go ahead, talk with your friends and try to save up.
    I agree, nearly $20 is kinda steep, but it'll be a breath of fresh air to find a new
    FC and server that's much nicer than the hell hole you seem to be in. x:
    sigh... I've been trying to point out that it's not about the fee. Heck, I could even pay entire FC to move out if I want to. 18 bucks is nothing compared to the larger sacrifice ppl had to make. Read my previous post. There are even more I can point out for the losses, but those will have to do for now.
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    Kyriea Nova
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    Masamune is a japanese server? If you were on an NA/EU server would you be more inclined to party with English speaking people or Japanese?
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    Migrate to Tonberry. I was from Masamune. First thing I did when migrated to Tonberry, open the Party Finder, and there's ENGLISH words! omfgwow! Another fact is, the JP use {Can you speak Japanese?} instead of JP ONRY. (There are still JP only PFs).

    Funny thing was, my coil team all agreed to migrate Tonberry because we can't find 2 replacement for our team since most the english player in masamune already have a static. However, when we were in Tonberry, we recruited 2 japanese into our static lol. (they join us during the first day, endure the full 90 mins wipe with us in T6. 2nd day we PF again, the same 2 joined! we were surprised since we did wipe the full run the day before. Well, we won it on that day, and they join our static.
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    Sarai Vanlaere
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by poipoy View Post
    Migrate to Tonberry. I was from Masamune. First thing I did when migrated to Tonberry, open the Party Finder, and there's ENGLISH words! omfgwow! Another fact is, the JP use {Can you speak Japanese?} instead of JP ONRY. (There are still JP only PFs).

    Funny thing was, my coil team all agreed to migrate Tonberry because we can't find 2 replacement for our team since most the english player in masamune already have a static. However, when we were in Tonberry, we recruited 2 japanese into our static lol. (they join us during the first day, endure the full 90 mins wipe with us in T6. 2nd day we PF again, the same 2 joined! we were surprised since we did wipe the full run the day before. Well, we won it on that day, and they join our static.
    Me and a friend moved to tonberry from cactuar...as we wanted to play on a server that was a little more active at the time of day/night we played, we also wanted that nostalgic feeling when we used to play with jp players in FFXI...toneberry fit our needs, the jp players we have played with have all been very nice and great, overall we love the server as it has a great community.

    And on the topic of not being able to afford the transfer fee...all i can advice is save those pennies till you can, either you can wait to be happy playing on the server your on...if it will ever change that is, OR take the chance and transfer to a different server where you might enjoy the community and players and overall have a better experience.
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