Community divide in Legacy servers

[Issac]

I think server transfers are a bit over the top, 18$ for just switching over some data. But if someone is on so much of a budget where 18 is a bit much they should probably rethink even playing this game since it has a monthly fee.

Not necessarily. Remember that the consumer ultimately dictates the value of things. You vote with your wallet. When you are on a budget and say, you have $100 dollars free each month after rent, bills, and food; Would you rather spend $18 on a transfer or say screw that and save it all? Or option C, get yourself something nice that costs $85? You do work hard, after all.

If someone ultimately quits the game because they don't want to drop nearly $20 on roughly 15-45 seconds of server load and bandwidth for the script to move your bits over, how much more does SE stand to lose? It's an interesting question I think.

[Ilitsa]

You have much more pressing matters to tend to if you can't afford a mere $18.00.

Just ask Mom and Dad for a dollar a day, or get a job.. saving up $18.00 is very, very possible.

I think server transfers are a bit over the top, 18$ for just switching over some data. But if someone is on so much of a budget where 18 is a bit much they should probably rethink even playing this game since it has a monthly fee.

Yes, because being responsible means we don't have a job or live off mommy and daddy. Personally, I've worked and lived on my own since I was 16 years old, I budget my rent, bills, food, and entertainment costs monthly, I can afford this game just fine, and even have money set aside for whenever an expansion comes out, if there's a CE version of it. I could spend 18 dollars to do something like a server transfer, or, I could go to the movies, or out to dinner with friends. It's not about not having money, it's about spending in the best way, I don't know you, so I won't make assumptions about your livelihoods, I suggest you try and do the same for others.

[Karnyboy]

Save 1.00 a day.
In 18 days you can server transfer.

[BobbinT]

There's 1 thing OP forgot or even never experience this problem: Latency!

Yes, back on Sargatanas, this posed as very... very problematic situation. You "have" to per-emptive incoming attacks. That's Titan for ya. You even need to go extra mile by paying for tunneling service, which IMO are not great solution since we have to fork extra cash.
But the community feels great. So easy to converse and know with many ppl with from different countries.

And yes, when I moved to Masamune, it was latency heaven. 1st time I felt latency below 100 ms. But man... the server feels like ghost town for English community. You either have to be JP literate, or feel somehow alienated.

So... here's the dilemma: Want broader & reachable community, or movement freedom? Is it impossible to have both, except maybe to live closer to NA data center to have both?

And since SE lifted the ban so that legacies can transfer to non legacy servers, this problem becomes more and more worse. Seems like slowly english speaker at JP servers are being herded to the obvious choice: Tonberry. But is that really a solution? And just forget things ppl have been building on their old servers?

PPl already making huge list of complaint regarding latency, and frankly, we really have ran out of patience. I don't even know if SE care anymore.

I love FF series since long time ago, but this dilemma makes me think to forget enjoying MMO.

[Bigpurpleharness]

I want to bring to your attention the community divide that is present in most legacy servers, mainly split between English speaking players and Japanese speaking players, I want to know if this is as bad in other legacy servers as it is in mine

Below i organized my thoughts or responses to posters in this thread based on subject

(please note from here on i can only provide comments and photos [by request] from my own experience from masamune)

On Masamune i would hazard a estimate ratio of 30:70 En/Jp speaking players, and for some reason the japanese players have no love at all for any English players, while this wasnt such a bad thing before 2.2 its becoming increasingly worse as time/content comes out

Excalibur's Few JP players aren't xenophobic at all, and it's pretty active. I like it, my only complaint is a lack of FC that run a 24/48 schedule for medics. That's every server it seems though.

[Lunavi]

If you are on a JP server you can expect that to happen. People will always prefer playing with people they can understand.

[Edeline]

If you are on a JP server you can expect that to happen. People will always prefer playing with people they can understand.

What do you need to understand in myth farming runs, from which you seem to get kicked if you're not Japanese? most of them just do it because they don't want anyone else but Japanese in the server.
While your post is partially true, you don't see this behavior on EN servers. We pretty much welcome everyone no matter where they are from. We don't exclude others language speaking players in our PF with "EN only" messages, people care about how you know the fight, not how you can pretend to be communicative in a fight that doesn't involve/need to be and kick you out of it because of that simple reason.

It is logical to think that you're expected to understand the server's language when you join it at your own risk, but it's not logical to exclude players just because they can't speak it, regardless of how well they know the game fights.

[Hysterior]

I have to agree that Masamune is being increasingly hostile to non-japanese

Point: I speak Japanese quite a bit, i could join "JP only" party with no problem because they only meant Japanese language
But the other day, i got kicked out of the party because he did not feel comfortable playing with a foreigner, even if i understood and replied to everything said
he then made in the party finder "japanese people only" in Japanese
It was first time i saw it and i felt a bit shocked.

if you have no static on Masamune, it's hard to progress further

And I start to agree that for all the English speakers in Asia and Oceania, might be better of moving to Tomberry at some point... sad

[Avarghaladion]

I have to agree that Masamune is being increasingly hostile to non-japanese

Point: I speak Japanese quite a bit, i could join "JP only" party with no problem because they only meant Japanese language
But the other day, i got kicked out of the party because he did not feel comfortable playing with a foreigner, even if i understood and replied to everything said
he then made in the party finder "japanese people only" in Japanese
It was first time i saw it and i felt a bit shocked.

if you have no static on Masamune, it's hard to progress further

And I start to agree that for all the English speakers in Asia and Oceania, might be better of moving to Tomberry at some point... sad

This sort of thing really merits a ban... preferably permanent. Really disgusts me when racism is essentially condoned in a MMO.

[Alcifer]

If they hadn't split Masamune and Tonberry apart in the duty finder and then kept locking content out of the duty finder it probably wouldn't of been so bad pugging and English party. But sadly, it's probably only going to get worse for you on Masamune. There's a fairly steady stream of people transferring from Masamune to Tonberry to enjoy a much more English tolerant server. Sure it's expensive and a complete pain when trying to transfer with a decent amount of gil (particularly when your entire FC ups and moves all at once) but it's so much nicer being able to instantly get a party then to deal with the increasingly hostile population back on Masamune.