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    Alise Reinhart
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    Not many people run Animus (mytho Brayflox run) anymore.

    I m not sure if this also happen in another server or not.
    But in Aegis atm, it seem that those who were more hardcore grinding it through boring task at first already get them. So only remain those who want round-2, and those that do it slower which aren't many. So unless it is peak time, it is very hard to make Brayflox party now. And my static PT usually gather for coil at peak time also which render my last 4 books to obtain progress very slowly at the rate of near stop atm. (since outside peak time = hard to get PT, and inside peak time = coil) So I wonder if same situation happen with other server? and how does SE plan to fix this issue when they said that they have no plan to nerf this until after 2.3. It is like people who still not finish the quest are forced to stop now due to lack of party available. Doing it without speed run will take 4-5 months which is not good idea.
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    Last edited by Alise; 05-30-2014 at 12:31 AM.

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    Bynder Whitehowler
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    As a player who prefers to run dungeons more slowly and not skip scenes (especially first run), believe me I know it's hell waiting for a group with a less popular, specific objective. Ultimately you have to accept that the players will do what they want to do. If nobody wants to farm first two bosses out of peak time, you're just out of luck. All I can suggest is just keep trying to get your group together and if it's not happening do some full bray runs instead. Surely the soldiery earned can't hurt?
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    Poponemu Totonemu
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    Personally, I just decided that I didn't want to do the first 5-10 min. of brayflox for 20+ hours. I've gotten the hard part done (getting the atma) now I can just do dungeons as per normal to get ToM and then fill out the book in a few hours, depending upon fate spawns. It's taking me about a week per book at that pace, but tome farming really isn't that fun. I won't have animus before 2.28, but considering I have 3 jobs I want to keep geared, 3 Animus is totally out of the question before 2.3 with current drop rates.

    I'm going to be waiting on higher ToM rates before I worry too much about making it to Animus, because at 10 min. per brayflox I'll have 135 hours of ToM grinding to do to get them.
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    Yeah, as I understand it, right now the upgrade is purely optional. If you're mad about getting it now then you have to struggle with the insane myth grind, but if you don't mind waiting till the upgrade is actually required for content (perhaps Novus), then the grind will surely be alleviated.

    The reason the massive grind exists now is so that those with nothing else left to achieve, and lot's of time on their hands can still work towards something and not un-sub.
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    Randolont Althoreaux
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    4 or 5 months?! You can farm a book every 4 or 5 days solely through roulette. Throw in a few dailies, Coil runs and Levi farms and you can comfortably get a book every three days. That amounts to a month at most. You are down to four books. You have maybe two weeks of work. Never realized Bray HM was the sole source of myth in the game. You're also a tank. Hello instaqueue. Just start DFing Bray and do full runs. I rarely get slow DF Brays so it's only an extra 5 mins or so to finish the dungeon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lithera View Post
    4 or 5 months?! You can farm a book every 4 or 5 days solely through roulette. Throw in a few dailies, Coil runs and Levi farms and you can comfortably get a book every three days. That amounts to a month at most. You are down to four books. You have maybe two weeks of work. Never realized Bray HM was the sole source of myth in the game. You're also a tank. Hello instaqueue. Just start DFing Bray and do full runs. I rarely get slow DF Brays so it's only an extra 5 mins or so to finish the dungeon.
    Wow! You're right. Though it's probably 5 rather than 4 days per book doing daily roulettes / beat tribe quests alone.

    Here's some figures just cause I'm that sad!

    High Level Roulette: 50 myth (+30-50 non-bonus)
    Low Level Roulette: 60 Myth
    Trials Roulette: 40 Myth (+0 -12 non-bonus)
    Main Scenario Roulette: 80 Myth (+20 non-bonus)
    Beast Tribe Dailies (6): 30 - 60 myth

    Total = 310 - 372

    Each book costs 1500 myth

    That's max 5 days for one book doing roulette's and daily beast tribe quests alone (the last day should not require all daily roulette's / beast tribes).

    For 9 books it's 13500 myth which takes 37 - 44 days doing roulette's and beast tribe dailies alone.

    Let's say the average run takes 40 - 60 minutes for each, that's roughly between 2.5 - 4 hours per day + maybe 1 hour for dailies. Most players won't want to play every roulette every night of the week, so let's just say they do equivalent of 4 - 5 nights a week. That's about 7.5 - 11 weeks depending on variables mentioned.

    Please correct any numbers if wrong.
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    Yoso Carrasco
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    Yeah I average 1 book a week and I only do roulettes and beastmen quests. I can probably do 2 books a week on the random weeks where multiple people in my FC need to cap stones at the last minute.
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    Probably because they r upping myth in 2.28 or 2.3 patch.
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    Alise Reinhart
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    When I said 4-5 months, it is because I only count Expert roulette, since that is the only roulette that I do.

    Not really much point here I guess, it is mainly just sad that I didn't spam it at first, and now make everything become hard. If I could spam it at first, I only need 6 min x 30 = 180 min per book. add 5 hours to wait fate and doing book task, then it is about 8 hours per book in total. I could only play 3 hours a day mostly, so it will take me 3 days in this method per book, if I don't have to do coil.

    High Level Roulette: 50 myth (+30-50 non-bonus)
    Low Level Roulette: 60 Myth
    Trials Roulette: 40 Myth (+0 -12 non-bonus)
    Main Scenario Roulette: 80 Myth (+20 non-bonus)
    Beast Tribe Dailies (6): 30 - 60 myth

    >> how many hours do you need to clear all that? Just wonder. And using this method, how many days would it require me per book, if I can play 3 hours/day.
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    A'lyhhia Tahz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alise View Post
    ...and how does SE plan to fix this issue when they said that they have no plan to nerf this until after 2.3. It is like people who still not finish the quest are forced to stop now due to lack of party available. Doing it without speed run will take 4-5 months which is not good idea.
    People not wanting to do Brayflox Speedruns is not an issue SE can, or should even attempt to, fix. In fact, if SE were to "fix" anything with this "issue", it would likely be to make Brayflox less speedrunnable. Second, there are far less monotonous sources of Myth Tomes currently available. Perhaps people are doing those? Third, the quest is supposed to take a long time. It was specifically created as something that would take a long time. Yoshi P even said that he didn't expect many people to have an Animus by 2.3... which is three months after the quest even became available. 4-5 months is honestly a good benchmark for someone who isn't speedrunning everything ever and generally burning themselves out on the game in the process.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alise View Post
    When I said 4-5 months, it is because I only count Expert roulette, since that is the only roulette that I do.
    You are severely discounting the value of roulettes and the Myth tomes they can provide. People have certainly complained about the fact that the Animus requires so many Myth tomes... yet Myth got harder to obtain in 2.2. However, roulettes were improved! Myth is only harder to obtain on any given day if and only if you're out of roulettes to do. Roulettes are the fastest source of Myth available apart from 2 boss Brayflox runs. Additionally, running as the adventurer in need is a surprisingly competent source of gil. There's pretty much no reason not to do roulettes if you need the Myth or the gil.
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