In Game Chat (Why is there no option for this yet! It is kind of archaic not to have)

[Myrhn]

I for one dont care about in in game voice chat. If we get it i will mute it and if we dont i'm fine by it. If is soooooo a nececity for you we have alternative voice chat, and a lot for that matter. As you said in the OP you had in game voice chat because that was a xbox 360 feature not a SE feature. Same with the ps4 right now, they have in game voice chat because is a ps4 feature and can only be use by other ps4 people.

[SafeOnBlock]

For those again who believe this would force you to use it... or find it discriminatory. IF that was the case it would be like that now with all the PC players using Ventrillo. Again no one can make you do anything. YOu may have PF groups that say voice chat is the must but I highly doubt you would have that problem in the Duty Finder. Maybe just make it so that there is no Party Chat in Duty Finder... Bam all your problems solved.

[SafeOnBlock]

I for one dont care about in in game voice chat. If we get it i will mute it and if we dont i'm fine by it. If is soooooo a nececity for you we have alternative voice chat, and a lot for that matter. As you said in the OP you had in game voice chat because that was a xbox 360 feature not a SE feature. Same with the ps4 right now, they have in game voice chat because is a ps4 feature and can only be use by other ps4 people.

Again just because you wont use it others should not have the option? PS4 voice chat does not solve the issue of cross platform/multiplatform chat. So your point is weak.

[Cassandaria]

Everyone, and I do mean everyone, that I have spoken with (on Excalibur and Behemoth) agrees that an in-game chat option should be placed.

You've never talked to me then, I'm on Excalibur and quite frankly I think the idea of a forced in game chat system is not just a bad idea, but one that is rife with potential issues that i have no desire to deal with. The connection is spotty at best already, forcing new code for something that requires additional connectivity with the servers that already have such lag issues is just not something I'm willing to deal with. The game is optimized to allow people on lower end connections to play in the first place, I don't think it's fair to take that away because of the concept of including something that can easily be added by many third party options.

[SafeOnBlock]

You've never talked to me then, I'm on Excalibur and quite frankly I think the idea of a forced in game chat system is not just a bad idea, but one that is rife with potential issues that i have no desire to deal with. The connection is spotty at best already, forcing new code for something that requires additional connectivity with the servers that already have such lag issues is just not something I'm willing to deal with. The game is optimized to allow people on lower end connections to play in the first place, I don't think it's fair to take that away because of the concept of including something that can easily be added by many third party options.

My reply is posted below

[SafeOnBlock]

^^^^^ First off, who said anything about forced? There are so many ways to implement a chat system that doesn't force chat use.... Make it to where it can only be used in Party Finder.. O.M.G! Problem solved... holy crap A solution that is a compromise! God forbid we do something other than complain! Use your brains and fix the problem. If you cannot play this game with chat then upgrade your internet... it takes very little strain on internet connection to run a chat system. But if you still want to argue that point... again just make it an option for Party Finder and guess what! Problem solved yet again!

And again you complain about fair. How is it fair for console users to be penalized because they can't or should not be required to download some random 3rd party program that is a staple in practically, if not all, multiplayer games developed today?

[Cassandaria]

First, I'm all for a compromise, allow it to be disabled entirely to allow the server hit to be lowered. Second, not everyone can just magically "upgrade" their internet, I live rural and I'm lucky to have high speed at all, even if it's no better than dial up. As for the impact, at least on my connection I've tried to run third party programs as well and it just wont, you argue to not have people on consoles penalized for voice chat, I argue to not punish people on bad internet that they cannot upgrade further because of a lack of infrastructure to not be penalized either, so, you have an in game compromise, try a real world one too.

[SafeOnBlock]

I am sure there is a way to implement the voice chat and minimize the effects that it has on internet connectivity. Like I said, just make it available for those who are using party finder. People PC users not playing with multi platform users will most likely stick with 3rd party. But those who do not have that option or prefer to not use 3rd party chat options can use in game voice chat.... I think you are blowing the voice chat thing out of proportion.