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    Discussion regarding beast tribe naming conventions.

    That's all we get to know about Moogle naming conventions? I always wanted to know all about how moogles are named! /sadpanda

    Also, welcome back from the grave Ferne!
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    Welcome back to the world of occasional posting, Mr. Halwes! Hope your Void sabbatical went well.

    Quote Originally Posted by AmyNeudaiz View Post
    I always wanted to know all about how moogles are named!
    All you've gotta do is ask and we'll always at least take a look and do our best.

    Moogle Name Analysis
    Here's a list of all the moogles I've ever met.

    Kuplo Kopp
    Kupta Kapa
    Kupdi Koop
    Kupli Kipp
    Kupqu Kogi
    Kupcha Kupa
    Kuplu Kopo
    Kupni Kapp

    Pukla Puki
    Puksi Piko
    Pukna Pako
    Pukno Poki
    Pukni Pakk

    I'm sure you can see some patterns unlike to be by chance. Now, none of this is definitive but here are some guesses based on this.

    First Name: Two syllables, often (but not always) five letters (the exception may be in two-letter singular sounds like CH or TH):

    [GENDER LETTER] + U + [OTHER GENDER LETTER] + [ANY(?) CONSANT(S) OF THE MOOGLE LANGUAGE] + [ANY (?) VOWEL THAT'S NOT "E"]

    Last Name: One to two syllables, always(?) four letters, resulting in the following options:
    [GENDER LETTER] + [ANY (?) VOWEL THAT'S NOT "E"] + [OTHER GENDER LETTER] + [ANY (?) VOWEL THAT'S NOT "E"]
    OR
    [GENDER LETTER] + [ANY (?) VOWEL THAT'S NOT "E"] + [OTHER GENDER LETTER x 2]
    OR
    [GENDER LETTER] + [ANY (?) VOWEL THAT'S NOT "E" x 2 ] + [OTHER GENDER LETTER]

    You'll notice that, for first names, our outlier is Kupcha, which is the inspiration for the two-letter one-sound rule above.

    Similarly, for last names, our outlier is Kogi. He is the only Moogle I've seen so far to not have the other gender letter as the third letter of his last name. This may imply that it is common but not a rule for this convention to be followed.

    I also don't think it's a coincidence for the most popular letters in moogle culture, the R-S-T-L-N-E of Mooglekind, so to speak, are the letters in KUPO. Kupopopopopo.
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    /cheer <Anonymoose>
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    Done and done.

    I also made sure to copy paste my guessing game just in case this post was not intended to be reply-to-able and they clean us out, lol.
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    I was hoping to learn more about Goblins. I know that males will end in -ix while females end in -ox, however their last name always seems to be more descriptive than anything.
    Also a Gobbieflock tongueflap wordbook (Goblin language dictionary) would always be a welcome post!
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    Glad to see you back on the Lodestone, Fernehalwes! This is some great lore-sauce you're ladling out, and I'm looking forward to a second helping! I mean, there must be more in store, or else why's there a roman numeral I at the end of the title, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    I was hoping to learn more about Goblins.
    I started to look at goblin names, but decided to hold back because it seemed like there were a few kinks to be ironed out. For instance, Brayflox was originally referred to in the masculine, and Sweetnix was referred to in the masculine in 1.0 and the feminine at ARR launch (though with Sweetnix Rosycheeks taking so much pride in his beauty, I can see where a mistake might be easy to make sans gender pronouns, lol). I also think, as Quintalian says above, the numeral I implies goblin naming conventions are to be extrapolated on at a later date. For what it's worth, here are some barely coherent and probably incorrect notes I from last time I gave it a shot.

    From what I can gather, the surname is related to their occupation and the forename is an adjective name similar to Roegadyn names that is related to the occupation, playing on the word in such a way that the gender can be identified. Goblins seem to have a very "you are your job" mindset in some respects, and the names may even have been assumed long after birth - think about real-world surnames like Baker, Smith, Carpenter, Fisher, Miller, Shepherd. Someone with a job took these up somewhere along the line.

    Mutamix Bubblypots
    A former Illuminati member who specializes in conversion and melding of materia.
    Possibly from Muto (Latin for change/transform; see mutate) for changing gear into materia + ix for male, possibly with a play on "mix" in addition to "Bubblypots" for alchemist.

    Stickflix Grumblytoss
    A goblin known for making explosives and doing combat with them.
    Possibly from literally flicking sticks of dynamite and tossing bombs - boompots - grumblies!

    Brayflox Alltalks
    An enterprising goblin that led a group to begin a new settlement (or longstop); former quartermaster in the Company of Heroes
    Bray (to shout) + flox (possibly a play on flocks, as she calls the group she led to her longstop her gobbieflock)
    Alltalks possibly for her leadership position - the boss - shouting orders perhaps...

    This also seems to happen when the goblin in question is known for not having an occupation and primarily doing/being something else.

    Tryptix Stumblemox
    A simple-minded brute hired as a mercenary
    Possibly a pun of "trip and stumble" linked with the spelling for things related to trypsin, particularly tryptophan (which carries associations of drowsiness).

    Wormwix Scribbletalk
    An eccentric (possibly mad) trafficker of contraband such as the Necrologos
    Scribbletalk relates to writing (books) and can be used as a goblin term for babble / incoherent speech whereas wormwix may related wormwood (bitter herb symbolizing affliction and used in the production of absinthe) or the term "bookworm" (or both).
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    The mythic and legendary Ferne! I can only hope that this leads to more delightful lore.
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    I really wish they had gone into a bit more detail about the amaljaa! Even if gender doesn't matter!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    Done and done.

    I also made sure to copy paste my guessing game just in case this post was not intended to be reply-to-able and they clean us out, lol.
    It almost feels like you work for the lore team when you're so keen on things like this xD good work that's very interesting (granted it's not official)
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