The Navel (Extreme): Please, healers, DO NOT PANIC.

[Umo]

I'm a Black Mage. I usually pop up my Manawall at the start of the combat, cast Eye for an Eye on pulling tank and start fighting at the other side of the room, away from everybody, main reason being I avoid everyone's Weight of the Land and I don't risk the others with my own plume (there's enough room in case anyone want to run backwards and not to the sides). Obviously, I still evade my Weight of the Land, so I don't take any damage at all.
Note I do this just on the first two plumes, gathering back with the group for stomps. I even use Manaward for them so I can mitigate most of the incoming damage.

So today I've found this White Mage saying s/he needs waymarks for running south in case s/he gets caught in gaol (really!?). I said waymarks are very distracting when running The Navel, and I got this:

(White Mage): Shut up, Umo. You stand behind like idiot. Gather together with us or no heal.

I was literally shocked. Not because of the insult, I don't give a damn about that. I don't understand why this healer got mad that way. I mean, I'm not taking any damage and I'm taking a plume away from the rest of the party (once more, just first 2 plumes). What's wrong? Why this healer panics when a character is away from him/her and NOT TAKING DAMAGE?
I haven't found a single healer going mad because of this before, so am I missing something? I'd appreciate any insight from a healer point of view.

PS. Yes, the healer died. Several times. On the other hand, I didn't.

[SeraviEdalborez]

He's stupid for committing to a direction without scanning for if it's safe, you're stupid for acting like waymarks are that much of a hindrance.

Not entirely sure why you bother taking the first plumes away if you're going to stack with everyone else later anyways.

[subteraneanbird]

He's stupid for committing to a direction without scanning for if it's safe, you're stupid for acting like waymarks are that much of a hindrance.

Not entirely sure why you bother taking the first plumes away if you're going to stack with everyone else later anyways.

Pretty much. My group uses waymarks anyways because we tell healers to intentionally go to a slightly different spot (to misdirect the Landslide after just for safety and QoL). If you're so pro at Titan EX but waymarks of all things throw you off then you're probably not as #mlg as you pretend. Also note that it's actually BAD to not be stacked as hell right from the getgo. You aren't saving anybody from anything (4 plumes is just as much of a killer as 5) and it shows you care more about your personal survival than group success. That's an attitude that's gonna bite you.

That WHM was bad for getting so upset about the waymarks but the very least you could do is humor them. Maybe they genuinely don't know where to be. Maybe they were afraid they were gonna panic during the fight and not run to the right spot (it happens to everybody) and your refusal to adapt at all makes you a horrendous team player.

[Melithea]

I haven't found a single healer going mad because of this before, so am I missing something? I'd appreciate any insight from a healer point of view.

I can't perceive any real reason for what you're doing other than maybe buying yourself the time to make one extra cast through a single landslide. Typically I ignore it when "that guy" has to do his own thing in that fight, because there's really nothing going on in the first phase anyway. But I can do Titan EX with my eyes closed. I can see why it might bother a less experienced healer who still isn't comfortable with all the positioning to have someone running around putting weights in odd places and then telling them that stationary landmarks are somehow distracting.

Actually seems a little hypocritical.

[Kinseykinz]

There's no real benefit to you for not stacking with the group. That said, there's no harm in you not stacking either.

There WAS a benefit to the group for a simple waymark to be placed for the healers peace of mind. And again, no harm would have befallen you.

Lastly, the waymark in the back IS useful post heart when everyone can easily get spun around and lose their bearings. I've several experiences where groups do fine but end up derping the bombs during the Add's phase because the MT accidentally positioned Titan just a little off of where he should have been creating an awkward bomb/adjustment problem. Having a waymark mark '6'o'clock' isn't really going to hurt anyone, and might help make the transition later far easier. (also magically marks the bomb some people like killing at the clock phase).

[Zendy]

Healers frequently deal with people that hang outside of healing range and then cry and rage when they die. While I agree the healer way over-reacted, he/she might be desperately trying to get the first clear for the story and they're overly sensitive after being yelled at for several previous attempts.

In addition, when you stand off to the side a mediocre healer like me will be stressing and trying to position so that you get caught in the area effect heals. I don't always have time to check everyone's current HP and what their doing, I just try to get all the blue dots close to me on the minimap.

So while I agree that the healer over reacted, a BLM is just responsible for himself while a healer has to watch out for the BLM and seven other people. The stress causes them to freak out occasionally. And while I recognize you were trying to help out the team with buffs and such, if the tank dies it's all the healers fault, nobodies going to yell at the BLM when the tank dies, even if the tank died because the poor healer was landslided while tying to include the BLM in a Medica II.

[Pantz]

For me, I have decided not to heal any bugger that stands so far from the group when everyone else is stacking. If my medica/medica2 hits that person, good for him/her. If not, I am not going to waste a gcd and mp healing that bugger individually.

Fights like Mog EX where people have to spread out is a different matter though.

Try playing a healer and see how irritating it is for people to stand out of range of heals when everyone else is stacking.

[Deuxclydion]

As a healer main, I don't consider the WHM's request to be unreasonable. Given how featureless Titan's arena is in terms of landmarks and that not every player has the same degree of spatial cognition, asking for markers ought to take precedence over your being distracted. Yeah, the WHM needs to lern2play without markers, but you could probably benefit from learning how to play with them.

(White Mage): Shut up, Umo. You stand behind like idiot. Gather together with us or no heal.

This, on the other hand, was uncalled for.

[Umo]

Thank you everyone for responses, even the disrespectful ones although it's not necessary to be rude.

Note waymarks were not the main issue; I think they are distracting at this encounter, but I can adapt myself and play around with them. For me it looks a bit useless since there's already a much bigger waymark called Titan: you just run away from him, right? Anyways, I didn't called this player out, just stated my opinion about waymarks at The Navel (Extreme) once some other member cleared the waymarks on his/her own; no, not me, believe it or not I'm not that kind of player, I didn't even said anything about waymarks until that very moment, saying just "waymarks are a bit distracting anyways".

The issue I was asking about is why a healer would go that mad just because a character is out of range for healing but taking no damage and not the entire fight, just first 2 plumes. No other healer reacted this way before. Maybe s/he overreacted to the waymarks issue directing his/her anger towards me. Maybe s/he's not used to the fight and just sticks to the 'everyone should lick Titan's butt every single time' instruction.

Anyways, now I realize my playstyle on this very first phase could take some people to get nervous and carry weight on their performance, so I'll be sure to change it accordingly.

Once more, thanks everyone and keep having fun!

[sheepysheepy]

as mages get to abuse sprint and shouldn't be in danger from wotl anyway, its probably not worth it to stray from the group if its causing someone anxiety, unfortunately in pickupgroups there is a set way to 'do things' and little changes and quirks to the normal stuff can just be left in friends&fc groups to avoid arguments