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  1. #51
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    Traek's Avatar
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    Traek Darksoul
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    Sargatanas
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    Marauder Lv 50
    I'm definitely not advocating what this person did, and being 'anti-SS' is just stupid. However, WHMs do need to learn that you don't need to SS the whole group before *every* fight. A lot of damage done throughout even the beginning of the fight is relatively harmless, and will break the SS within the first 30seconds of the fight (Raff's chains). At the most you are saving a regen's worth of curing (instant cast), vs. 3 second cast x6-7. Just SS the tanks and move on. It adds a lot of time before each pull to full SS party members, for minimal to no benefit. Not only are you waiting the whole cast time, but also cutting your MP regen in which the Tank has to wait for full to pull.

    TL, DR; The SCH sounds stupid, but you don't need to SS the whole group every pull. Time adds up.
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    Player Eekiki's Avatar
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    Kickle Cubicle
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    Balmung
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    Rogue Lv 90
    This reminds me of the DRG I met running Haukke Manor (Hard) who refused to limit break the boss because she "didn't believe in limit break" and "we don't need it to win".
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  3. #53
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    Alvis Yune
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    Adamantoise
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    Fisher Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Traek View Post
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    For the most part, Stoneskin is used to prevent accidents. If a party's doing well enough that the only person I have to refresh Stoneskin on is the tank, then fantastic.

    If Stoneskin is even able to be reapplied, either we're either in Coil, or something is going wrong - and the more accidents prevented, the better. I'll usually slip in the recasts during pulls, rather than forcing people to wait.
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  4. #54
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    Orca High
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    Balmung
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    Lancer Lv 50
    hmm so its wrong to remove it since it die's within the first area of effect then after there's no point in stone skinning since the fights basically has area of effect in its rotation which in turn its like they said no point in wasting the time in even bothering with?
    hmm the first area of effect hit its less damage but still hit there hp. o well time to heal full amount. In the end its resulting in the same grand total damage but a little less thanks to the first area of effect block. is that a win? in my book nope just a waste
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    Last edited by Hmph; 05-23-2014 at 01:26 AM.

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    Felendis Vreer
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    I'm glad most players are on the same page regarding the usefulness of SS and the utter nonsense in removing it.

    I'd also like to point out that certain debuffs only take effect if they do damage to you, from Diabolos AoE sleep to T2 ADS/Titan Ex stacks. SS + Galvanize can help you avoid quite a bit of nastiness. For DPS, avoiding pushback via Ifrit or even landslide is pretty dope.
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    Denevieve Nebilim
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eekiki View Post
    This reminds me of the DRG I met running Haukke Manor (Hard) who refused to limit break the boss because she "didn't believe in limit break" and "we don't need it to win".
    That's just... God why?
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    Greetings Everyone!

    After reviewing this thread, we have come to the conclusion that all can be said for this topic in a constructive manner. It seems as if a couple of violations made their way into this thread so sadly we must close this thread. If you would like to continue the discussion in a more constructive way, than by all means please start a new thread, but for now this thread will remain closed.

    Thank you!
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