Time limit to re-enter dungeons

[DurtiMonkeyToe]

Well, now that even my posts are twisted in favor of your argument I think there's no return from here.

I definitely let myself get trolled hard. No actual arguments, just random statements without any backing up. Even got called a troll once, a great way to make a solid argument as well. Sigh.

What an amateur I am. Definitely your win this time. Didn't see it coming after all.

How did I twist this in my favor? Listen, I'm not going through this entire thread and hunting down everyone single one of your posts and quoting them just to point out that they are opinionated. The fact that you can't do it for yourself speaks volumes of the level this argument has reached.

I have opinions, you have opinions. I have based mine on at least the following facts:

FACT: 5 Minute Respawn timer makes it easier to use Dungeons for exping.

FACT: 5 Minute Respawn timer means we have less time to wait to actually play in them.

FACT: It will be easier to find 4/8 Players to run dungeons on a 5 minute timer than it would be to find 4/8 players to run a dungeon on a 36 hour timer.

I'm sure there have been more facts presented in the pro 5 minute argument.

As for the con 5 minute argument, I will go as far as to post one fact:

FACT: 36 hour timer makes the content last longer.

[Nero]

FACT: 5 Minute Respawn timer makes it easier to use Dungeons for exping.

Thats not a Fact, you are assuming it.

But yes, there is maybe a chance to use Dungeons for Exping. Since we dont know, how hard they are to get through, how the "respawm" of the Mobs will work inside, please tell me how you made that a Fact?

FACT: 5 Minute Respawn timer means we have less time to wait to actually play in them.

Brilliant logic there.

Fact 453: 8 Hour Respawn means i have more time to watch Porns.

FACT: It will be easier to find 4/8 Players to run dungeons on a 5 minute timer than it would be to find 4/8 players to run a dungeon on a 36 hour timer.

Its not a Fact, you are assuming again. IF you have a Linkshell with 50 Members all around the World where Players are on 24/7/365, how would it be hard to find 4/8 or even 8/8 People for a Dungeon?

FACT: 36 hour timer makes the content last longer.

Possible.

Fact 1: NA-Forums have a lot of People with different opinions.
Fact 2: The Earth is not Flat.
Fact 3: Everyone will die at some day in the Future.

[DurtiMonkeyToe]

This post is made even funnier by something you said earlier in this very thread:

Well, now that even my posts are twisted in favor of your argument I think there's no return from here.

I definitely let myself get trolled hard. No actual arguments, just random statements without any backing up. Even got called a troll once, a great way to make a solid argument as well. Sigh.

What an amateur I am. Definitely your win this time. Didn't see it coming after all.

I can see that you're in the "Idc" phase now; a way for the mind to defend itself from being confused due to being proven wrong.

NOW I see what you were saying. Good example!

[DurtiMonkeyToe]

Thats not a Fact, you are assuming it.

But yes, there is maybe a chance to use Dungeons for Exping. Since we dont know, how hard they are to get through, how the "respawm" of the Mobs will work inside, please tell me how you made that a Fact?

Maybe I used the wrong verbage. How about:

FACT: 5 minute respawn means more time for exping in dungeons.

Better?

Brilliant logic there.

Fact 453: 8 Hour Respawn means i have more time to watch Porns.

Fact is fact my friend. The FACT is, your analogy aside, is that on a 5 minute timer, I can play a lot more dungeon than I can on a 36 hour timer.

Its not a Fact, you are assuming again. IF you have a Linkshell with 50 Members all around the World where Players are on 24/7/365, how would it be hard to find 4/8 or even 8/8 People for a Dungeon?

Sorry, this IS fact, based on simple math. I have a better chance of finding 8 people from 100% of the community(based on a 5 minute timer) than I do of finding 8 people out of 50% of the community(The percentage is speculation, but the logic is factual. Not EVERYONE in the community will be able to run a dungeon anytime they want on a 36 hour cooldown and not EVERYONE is in a 50 member shell)

You are good at trying to pick apart other people's logic. Not so good at putting forth any of your own.

[Nero]

Maybe I used the wrong verbage. How about:

FACT: 5 minute respawn means more time for exping in dungeons.

Better?

Yes.

Fact is fact my friend. The FACT is, your analogy aside, is that on a 5 minute timer, I can play a lot more dungeon than I can on a 36 hour timer.

You can play more Dungeons yes. Now you made it a Fact. Its all about wording.

Sorry, this IS fact, based on simple math. I have a better chance of finding 8 people from 100% of the community(based on a 5 minute timer) than I do of finding 8 people out of 50% of the community(The percentage is speculation, but the logic is factual. Not EVERYONE in the community will be able to run a dungeon anytime they want on a 36 hour cooldown and not EVERYONE is in a 50 member shell)

Correct, you got my Point. Its not about its harder or easier to find people to run Dungeons. Its about in which position you are playing, like if you are in a big LS or if you are not.

If you are in a big one, you shouldnt have any Problems at all to find People to run a Dungeon. No matter if 5 Min Respawn or 500 Mins.

If you are in a small Group, or a casual which want/have to do with Random People than its all made out of luck, if you find People quick or not. But of course the chance of getting people quick is lowered.

You are good at trying to pick apart other people's logic. Not so good at putting forth any of your own.

Maybe its because i dont pull out everything i would like to? Maybe because English is my 3rd Language?

But beside that.. i didnt backup any of my Points so far, since i didnt see the Dungeons yet. I cant say if they are easy or not, i cant say if they are really useable for Exping and i also cant say if the 5 Min Timer will work out and if everyone will like it.

[DurtiMonkeyToe]

Maybe its because i dont pull out everything i would like to? Maybe because English is my 3rd Language?

But beside that.. i didnt backup any of my Points so far, since i didnt see the Dungeons yet. I cant say if they are easy or not, i cant say if they are really useable for Exping and i also cant say if the 5 Min Timer will work out and if everyone will like it.

I admit, maybe I was a little overly sensitive in my last post so I apologize if I was. In general, I am probably quicker to call people out because there are many in this community that are just... well... just *sigh*.

Anyway. I am happy to exchange and debate opinions. The purpose of my fact vs. opinion thread wasn't to prove myself right, but to show Betelgeuzah the difference between a factual statement and opinion, because he seems to think that his opinion = fact.

[Zahak]

It doesn't matter how often you can enter the dungeon. The only thing that matters is the friends you make and the adventures you make together inside of these dungeons. Have fun and give it a try!

[Nero]

It doesn't matter how often you can enter the dungeon. The only thing that matters is the friends you make and the adventures you make together inside of these dungeons. Have fun and give it a try!

^ That one i really, really like.

[Bubblesz]

It doesn't matter how often you can enter the dungeon. The only thing that matters is the friends you make and the adventures you make together inside of these dungeons. Have fun and give it a try!

I give that a +3

[Spellbinder]

It doesn't matter how often you can enter the dungeon. The only thing that matters is the friends you make and the adventures you make together inside of these dungeons. Have fun and give it a try!

I don't think anyone here understands what fun is.