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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubont View Post
    your posts reek of mad
    Well, that's just like, your opinion man.

    It'll be quite a small circle, considering it'd include yourself alone.
    You don't get comments like this without anything personal behind it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    Well, that's just like, your opinion man.
    I appreciate the Dude reference, but that's about it, man.
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    Healer strike is ridiculously foolish and accomplishes nothing

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    I have to back-up a statement that says you are basing your arguments on speculation and opinion now? *Sigh* You say that a 36 hour timer is better for casuals because they will get less bored if they are forced to wait? Opinion.
    Well, now that even my posts are twisted in favor of your argument I think there's no return from here.

    I definitely let myself get trolled hard. No actual arguments, just random statements without any backing up. Even got called a troll once, a great way to make a solid argument as well. Sigh.

    What an amateur I am. Definitely your win this time. Didn't see it coming after all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    Well, now that even my posts are twisted in favor of your argument I think there's no return from here.

    I definitely let myself get trolled hard. No actual arguments, just random statements without any backing up. Even got called a troll once, a great way to make a solid argument as well. Sigh.

    What an amateur I am. Definitely your win this time. Didn't see it coming after all.
    How did I twist this in my favor? Listen, I'm not going through this entire thread and hunting down everyone single one of your posts and quoting them just to point out that they are opinionated. The fact that you can't do it for yourself speaks volumes of the level this argument has reached.

    I have opinions, you have opinions. I have based mine on at least the following facts:

    FACT: 5 Minute Respawn timer makes it easier to use Dungeons for exping.

    FACT: 5 Minute Respawn timer means we have less time to wait to actually play in them.

    FACT: It will be easier to find 4/8 Players to run dungeons on a 5 minute timer than it would be to find 4/8 players to run a dungeon on a 36 hour timer.

    I'm sure there have been more facts presented in the pro 5 minute argument.

    As for the con 5 minute argument, I will go as far as to post one fact:

    FACT: 36 hour timer makes the content last longer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe View Post
    FACT: 5 Minute Respawn timer makes it easier to use Dungeons for exping.
    Thats not a Fact, you are assuming it.

    But yes, there is maybe a chance to use Dungeons for Exping. Since we dont know, how hard they are to get through, how the "respawm" of the Mobs will work inside, please tell me how you made that a Fact?

    Quote Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe View Post
    FACT: 5 Minute Respawn timer means we have less time to wait to actually play in them.
    Brilliant logic there.

    Fact 453: 8 Hour Respawn means i have more time to watch Porns.

    Quote Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe View Post
    FACT: It will be easier to find 4/8 Players to run dungeons on a 5 minute timer than it would be to find 4/8 players to run a dungeon on a 36 hour timer.
    Its not a Fact, you are assuming again. IF you have a Linkshell with 50 Members all around the World where Players are on 24/7/365, how would it be hard to find 4/8 or even 8/8 People for a Dungeon?

    Quote Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe View Post
    FACT: 36 hour timer makes the content last longer.
    Possible.

    Fact 1: NA-Forums have a lot of People with different opinions.
    Fact 2: The Earth is not Flat.
    Fact 3: Everyone will die at some day in the Future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero View Post
    Thats not a Fact, you are assuming it.

    But yes, there is maybe a chance to use Dungeons for Exping. Since we dont know, how hard they are to get through, how the "respawm" of the Mobs will work inside, please tell me how you made that a Fact?
    Maybe I used the wrong verbage. How about:

    FACT: 5 minute respawn means more time for exping in dungeons.

    Better?


    Quote Originally Posted by Nero View Post
    Brilliant logic there.

    Fact 453: 8 Hour Respawn means i have more time to watch Porns.
    Fact is fact my friend. The FACT is, your analogy aside, is that on a 5 minute timer, I can play a lot more dungeon than I can on a 36 hour timer.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nero View Post
    Its not a Fact, you are assuming again. IF you have a Linkshell with 50 Members all around the World where Players are on 24/7/365, how would it be hard to find 4/8 or even 8/8 People for a Dungeon?
    Sorry, this IS fact, based on simple math. I have a better chance of finding 8 people from 100% of the community(based on a 5 minute timer) than I do of finding 8 people out of 50% of the community(The percentage is speculation, but the logic is factual. Not EVERYONE in the community will be able to run a dungeon anytime they want on a 36 hour cooldown and not EVERYONE is in a 50 member shell)

    You are good at trying to pick apart other people's logic. Not so good at putting forth any of your own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe View Post
    Maybe I used the wrong verbage. How about:

    FACT: 5 minute respawn means more time for exping in dungeons.

    Better?
    Yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe View Post
    Fact is fact my friend. The FACT is, your analogy aside, is that on a 5 minute timer, I can play a lot more dungeon than I can on a 36 hour timer.
    You can play more Dungeons yes. Now you made it a Fact. Its all about wording.

    Quote Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe View Post
    Sorry, this IS fact, based on simple math. I have a better chance of finding 8 people from 100% of the community(based on a 5 minute timer) than I do of finding 8 people out of 50% of the community(The percentage is speculation, but the logic is factual. Not EVERYONE in the community will be able to run a dungeon anytime they want on a 36 hour cooldown and not EVERYONE is in a 50 member shell)
    Correct, you got my Point. Its not about its harder or easier to find people to run Dungeons. Its about in which position you are playing, like if you are in a big LS or if you are not.

    If you are in a big one, you shouldnt have any Problems at all to find People to run a Dungeon. No matter if 5 Min Respawn or 500 Mins.

    If you are in a small Group, or a casual which want/have to do with Random People than its all made out of luck, if you find People quick or not. But of course the chance of getting people quick is lowered.

    Quote Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe View Post
    You are good at trying to pick apart other people's logic. Not so good at putting forth any of your own.

    Maybe its because i dont pull out everything i would like to? Maybe because English is my 3rd Language?

    But beside that.. i didnt backup any of my Points so far, since i didnt see the Dungeons yet. I cant say if they are easy or not, i cant say if they are really useable for Exping and i also cant say if the 5 Min Timer will work out and if everyone will like it.
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    This post is made even funnier by something you said earlier in this very thread:

    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    Well, now that even my posts are twisted in favor of your argument I think there's no return from here.

    I definitely let myself get trolled hard. No actual arguments, just random statements without any backing up. Even got called a troll once, a great way to make a solid argument as well. Sigh.

    What an amateur I am. Definitely your win this time. Didn't see it coming after all.
    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    I can see that you're in the "Idc" phase now; a way for the mind to defend itself from being confused due to being proven wrong.
    NOW I see what you were saying. Good example!
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