Time limit to re-enter dungeons

[Betelgeuzah]

I can respect people's opinions, but when you present it as 'fact' it's an annoyance.

The world is not subjective- both of us can't be right. And my argument holds more water than yours. It is annoying, I know the feeling.

Have a nice day.

[DurtiMonkeyToe]

Does that mean you're in favor of level caps now? lol

And to be more clear, I actually think that 5 minutes is a bit too fast*, but I'm gonna roll with it regardless since this is still a testing phase after all. Who knows, it may actually work out in the end, we'll just have to see how this plays out.

*While 5 minutes is probably too fast, in my opinion, a one week cooldown is just ridiculous. A reasonable reentry time limit coupled with a reasonable consumable cost (gil, quest item, beastcoins, etc) would be the best solution, as far as theorycrafting is concerned.

Not really! But that doesn't mean we can't support one another when our opinions align! I am a stubborn, argumentative person at heart, but I have always said, I will run content in any way, shape, or form that it is put out. That doesn't mean that I am not going to express myself ^^

[Chinook]

Tho I can understand the arguments behind the pro 5 min re-entry people, I don't think we use the same logic and global vision for this particular situation. Some people explained the negative impacts of 5 min re-entry really well, but we'll never agree.

Like it or not, any kind of games or sports need to have some kind of restrictions to make things interesting. Everything would be boring without them (just take your favorite game, hobby or sport and imagine it without restrictions or rules). This game is in fact a pretty good example of a game that lacked restrictions and challenge. I personally still like it and have faith, but the vast majority doesn't.

On the opposite side, I think the 5 min re-entry limit is good for the r30 dungeon (same thing for the 5 min mid-rank NMs), since they're designed for people to have fun on the way to 50, not the ones that reached the end and want some sense of achievement and challenge.

We'll see if this debate was worth it really soon !

[DurtiMonkeyToe]

The world is not subjective- both of us can't be right. And my argument holds more water than yours. It is annoying, I know the feeling.

Have a nice day.

You flatter yourself greatly. Probably the only person who does. You're argument holds no water because it is based on opinion and speculation, and nothing else. You can proclaim yourself the winner as much as you want. Unfortunately, you are the only one who thinks so.

[DurtiMonkeyToe]

Tho I can understand the arguments behind the pro 5 min re-entry people, I don't think we use the same logic and global vision for this particular situation. Some people explained the negative impacts of 5 min re-entry really well, but we'll never agree.

Like it or not, any kind of games or sports need to have some kind of restrictions to make things interesting. Everything would be boring without them (just take your favorite game, hobby or sport and imagine it without restrictions or rules). This game is in fact a pretty good example of a game that lacked restrictions and challenge. I personally still like it and have faith, but the vast majority doesn't.

On the opposite side, I think the 5 min re-entry limit is good for the r30 dungeon (same thing for the 5 min mid-rank NMs), since they're designed for people to have fun on the way to 50, not the ones that reached the end and want some sense of achievement and challenge.

We'll see if this debate was worth it really soon !

I agree with your point that neither side will ever agree, lol. Each side has it's points and counterpoints. What I don't like, is people presenting their opinions as 'best' for the game, or as 'fact' when it is based on speculation. I will argue against any opinion presented in this fashion, even ones on the same side as me.

With that said, I find it hard to believe that a 5 minute timer is going to be 'the death of this game.' For the people that have stuck it out this far, ANY content is good content, even if just for a day (Which I hope is the case).

[Dubont]

You flatter yourself greatly. Probably the only person who does. You're argument holds no water because it is based on opinion and speculation, and nothing else. You can proclaim yourself the winner as much as you want. Unfortunately, you are the only one who thinks so.

^^^^agreed

[Abriael]

LOL. I find it quite amusing to see people demanding for SE to dilute content with high cooldowns in order to make it last longer. Like preventing people to play something when they want is somehow going to multiply the implemented content in game.
Want it to last longer for you? place self-imposed limits and let others play at the pace they prefer.

And please, ignore "I tell myself I'm right because I'm delusional and I think that if I repeat it enough times it'll become true" Betelgeuzah, not worth it, really.

[BadJoeRed]

Sorry you fail at the concept of freedom... usually these low IQ people make me laugh but you people are pathetic and hopeless. We have the freedom to do what we want in the game! This is great news for casuals and people who plays lots... if you don't wanna plow through content SUPER FAST then DON'T do it... is it hard to understand? ugggh, I usually laugh at low IQ's like this but I feel all disgusted now lmao Have fun... complaining... about... freedom!

/block

You strike me as an intelligent person.

[Betelgeuzah]

You're argument holds no water because it is based on opinion and speculation, and nothing else.

Well, if you're going to continue making statements like this without backing them up with any reasoning, I do think I will lose that duel of words.

We're both winners after all!

And please, ignore "I tell myself I'm right because I'm delusional and I think that if I repeat it enough times it'll become true" Betelgeuzah, not worth it, really.

Strikes me as odd why you, out of all people, would say this!

Wait.. no, it doesn't! Hahahah

Now we need a little circle of people I've embarrassed.

Like Durti quoting Abriael saying "I see what you mean, lol"... But we can't think there is anything personal about this; just a random fellow making a random statement about something completely unrelated to him.

[Dubont]

Well, if you're going to continue making statements like this without backing them up with any reasoning, I do think I will lose that duel of words.

We're both winners after all!



Strikes me as odd why you, out of all people, would say this!

Wait.. no, it doesn't! Hahahah

Now we need a little circle of people I've embarrassed.

Like Durti quoting Abriael saying "I see what you mean, lol"... But we can't think there is anything personal about this; just a random fellow making a random statement about something completely unrelated to him.

your posts reek of mad