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  1. #301
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    Quote Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe View Post
    How is it different by penalizing one portion of the community for another?
    Better penalize the strong-willed. They aren't going anywhere.

    You aren't getting away penalizing no one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    No reason to not have them, really.



    analogues, wonderful.

    So anyone without enough time on their hands is a joe schmoe, a lazy bum that doesn't take the game SERIOUSLY enough and as such doesn't deserve to be there.

    Too bad the sponsors need the entering fees from joe as much as anna kournikova next to him. Either way the one giving up first will be joe and the sponsors can't let that happen or he won't take part in the race next time.

    I can see that you're in the "Idc" phase now; a way for the mind to defend itself from being confused due to being proven wrong.
    Just like insults are the defense of the weak-minded? Listen, you're not doing anything to my ego friend so you can stop trying. You're trying to sell me on the fact that a 36 hour cool down timer is better for the game for casual players. And yet the 5 minute timer doesn't restrict casual gamers, so your point is moot.
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  3. #303
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    Better penalize the strong-willed. They aren't going anywhere.

    You aren't getting away penalizing no one.
    Which is why no one is being penalized in the current system. Seems fair to me.
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    lol i like how people think it's perfectly ok to say 'just release moar things fasterer'. You can't possibly begin to even know what your talking about lol. That's like me criticizing a US president and saying just get more money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    Casuals are casual for a reason. They get bored easily, they have no patience to go to an instance time and time again and get little out of it because the content is balanced for hardcore population.
    I'm a casual player because I have a full time job and family members to care for, not because I'm impatient.

    If anyone is impatient, it's the hardcore population with their "MUST GET ALL UBER GEARZ NOW CAN'T STOP PLAYING TIL I'M 1337" mentality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naylia View Post
    The best day I ever had at Disney World, was when my wife and I were there with a couple buddies halfway between Thanksgiving and Christmas. There were no lines, no waits. They literally ran rides when we boarded the front car. That was hands down, the best day I have ever spent in an amusement park.
    I actually had a similar experience. I went to Six Flags: Magic Mountain on just the right day, no people, and lots of rides open / cars running. I went on a roller coaster a dozen times in an hour, and it was fantastic. I think in part, though, it was so great because when I went I was expecting the long lines, and so it was a nice surprise to just be able to GO.

    That said, a lot of the actual implementations of lines/queues ARE just annoying. It's hot, the sun is beating down on you, and some kid is screaming while you are stuck in line for 3 hours. THAT is the type of timer I'd just as soon avoid.

    I guess I'm thinking something more like a somewhat long elevator ride down into the dungeon. Creepy music and sound effects play. Maybe you can hear the sounds of a previous party battling, or even see them. Something like the opening to the original Half-life comes to mind.
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  7. #307
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    Quote Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe View Post
    Just like insults are the defense of the weak-minded? Listen, you're not doing anything to my ego friend so you can stop trying. You're trying to sell me on the fact that a 36 hour cool down timer is better for the game for casual players. And yet the 5 minute timer doesn't restrict casual gamers, so your point is moot.
    We're way past having an actual argument at this point; you are no longer capable.

    All you want is a way to get out of the argument without looking as if you had "lost"...which you already did.

    Now to make up an excuse to "not have to listen to me" so you can a) end the "debate" and b) not have to do any self-reflecting; oh, it's so bothersome.

    But no hard feelings.

    Which is why no one is being penalized in the current system. Seems fair to me.
    Still squirming, but you never told me what to set the drop rate so no one gets penalized. I gave you two options that don't work. To avoid being a troll, give me some facts.

    What's the drop rate that doesn't penalize anyone?
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    I agree with you on not playing games because they are free , I think the difference is that I still have expectations that this can be a great game .
    However when I see the quick fix , because people are bored and will go for anything new at this point .
    I worry because accepting this now sets the stage for everything else we will get .
    It would be better maybe if they just mailed the items to us . Oh nvm no mailbox , maybe this is the best way to give us items then .
    Don't you want to know whats its like to overcome the odds , to be a part of something not just anyone can do ?
    This games direction is the opposite of that and if you like the direction its headed , then you are'nt playing your just showing up to collect easy items .
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    We need a Community Rep to step up and answer all of our questions.
    Entry fee? Item requirement?
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  10. #310
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    We're way past having an actual argument at this point; you are no longer capable.

    All you want is a way to get out of the argument without looking as if you had "lost"...which you already did.

    Now to make up an excuse to "not have to listen to me" so you can a) end the "debate" and b) not have to do any self-reflecting; oh, it's so bothersome.

    But no hard feelings.
    Again, lawl post. I know people have a psychological NEED to feel as though they are right, but you take it to new heights by not acknowledging anyone's opinions but your own. Hope you are happy in your own little world.

    I can respect people's opinions, but when you present it as 'fact' it's an annoyance.
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